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Re:Cincinnati Joins the List of Cities Saying ‘No’ to Parkin... by prolikewh0a on Sunday September 30, 2018 @04:45PM (#18108311)
Our country is a lot bigger with barely anything in the middle. Cities without adequate public transit can be blamed directly on the voters.
Re:Cincinnati Joins the List of Cities Saying ‘No’ to Parkin... by strictnein on Sunday September 30, 2018 @05:23PM (#18108498)
> "barely anything in the middle"

It's amazing how many people think this. There are metro areas in "the middle" with populations greater than European countries. And Texas, right in the middle, has a population that would put it at #10 in Europe.

   #3 Chicago 9.5 million
   #4 Dallas 7.4 million
   #5 Houston 6.9 million
   #14 Detroit 4.3 million
   #16 Minneapolis 3.6 million
   #19 Denver 2.9 million
   #21 St Louis 2.8 million
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_statistic...

The Chicago metro would be the 20th largest country in Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_...

Re:Cincinnati Joins the List of Cities Saying ‘No’ to Parkin... by yazr on Sunday September 30, 2018 @05:57PM (#18108657)
Let be kind to the GP and assume he meant "space between metro areas" rather than the simplistic "coastal and flyover" meme.

Look at Texas. 200 miles of between Houston and Dallas and Austin. This largely empty triangle itself is half the Texas population. But its barely 10% of the Texas area.

So yes. The US metros are isolated compared to Europe.

Re:Cincinnati Joins the List of Cities Saying ‘No’ to Parkin... by isostatic on Sunday September 30, 2018 @07:27PM (#18109038)
That isolation means that people travel to airports to go to other metro areas, rather than train stations like in Europe.

It doesn't explain the lack of transit inside the metros.

Metro population density is far more important.

Re:Cincinnati Joins the List of Cities Saying ‘No’ to Parkin... by WorldMaker on Monday October 01, 2018 @12:58PM (#18114493)
Many of these cities were more densely connected by train stations prior to Europe's rail network, yet America's co-dependent dreams of the automobile and of flight derailed that and sold the rail network to the lowest bidder for terrible, slow cargo usage only.

Which absolutely does start to explain the lack of transit inside many of these metros: at the same time the rails were converted to mostly cargo only a lot of the suburban commuter lines were themselves "lost" to time or destroyed. It's utterly depressing to see the old passenger train maps in America and compare to what some of those passenger lines could be serving today if like Europe they'd been kept up/maintained.

A lot more of the suburbs in every American city than people realize were served by trolley and passenger train in their infancy that they grew around, and just because many of the lines have been "lost" over the years doesn't mean that their skeletons don't still show in the overall growth pattern. (Until you get into the entirely car-dependent exurbs and "suburbs of the suburbs", of course.)

America outsourced public transit to the lowest bidders, they got bored serving people directly and went with focusing solely on cargo, and people were too busy driving everywhere to notice what they lost.

Re:Cincinnati Joins the List of Cities Saying ‘No’ to Parkin... by pixl97 on Sunday September 30, 2018 @09:20PM (#18109380)
US metro population density is low in most places that are not constrained by oceans or mountains.
Re:Cincinnati Joins the List of Cities Saying ‘No’ to Parkin... by soperj on Monday October 01, 2018 @12:24AM (#18110035)
Same with Canada, and yet Metro is better in most big Canadian cities than any I've been to in the U.S.
Re:Cincinnati Joins the List of Cities Saying ‘No’ to Parkin... by pixl97 on Monday October 01, 2018 @08:23AM (#18111921)
Aren't Canada's biggest cities along borders with rivers?
Re:Cincinnati Joins the List of Cities Saying ‘No’ to Parkin... by kevin_thibedeau on Monday October 01, 2018 @12:49AM (#18110109)
> It doesn't explain the lack of transit inside the metros.

That is because whites moved out and systematically starved the cities of a tax base and state funding for infrastructure projects that would benefit minorities.

Re:Cincinnati Joins the List of Cities Saying ‘No’ to Parkin... by lmm on Sunday September 30, 2018 @05:51PM (#18108633)
How widely spaced are those cities though? US population density is 33 people/km^2 compared with 112 for the EU.
Re:Cincinnati Joins the List of Cities Saying ‘No’ to Parkin... by mrep on Sunday September 30, 2018 @09:32PM (#18109413)
Far, but almost everyone does not commute outside their local city so I don't get your point.
Re:Cincinnati Joins the List of Cities Saying ‘No’ to Parkin... by realusername on Sunday September 30, 2018 @11:56PM (#18109939)
> Our country is a lot bigger with barely anything in the middle

That's a positive for public transport, you can cover more people cheaper because almost everyone live in big cities.

Re:Cincinnati Joins the List of Cities Saying ‘No’ to Parkin... by justtopost on Sunday September 30, 2018 @05:15PM (#18108455)
Or maybe the fact our country is huge, and infrastructure cost is ghastly compared to say, all of europe. But sure, blame the voters.
Re:Cincinnati Joins the List of Cities Saying ‘No’ to Parkin... by xyzzyz on Sunday September 30, 2018 @06:00PM (#18108669)
This is an excuse for no transit options between metros, but not an excuse for no public transit inside the metros.