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Re:Developer Joe Hewitt Tears Into Android’s Definition Of “... by wtallis on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @03:07AM (#1810342)
Open is not the same as "open, if you run it on special developer hardware". The Android platform cannot really be said to be open if none of the consumer products based on it are open.
Re:Developer Joe Hewitt Tears Into Android’s Definition Of “... by biafra on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @03:44AM (#1810391)
The Nexus One is a consumer product. You do not have to be a developer to buy it nor is it special developer hardware.

Those other devices are still closed because people still buy them. Vote with your wallets and you will have freedom.

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Re:Developer Joe Hewitt Tears Into Android’s Definition Of “... by biafra on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @09:48AM (#1811167)
The easiest way to find one depending on your location might be ebay.

There are a lot of new & unused N1s on ebay.de and ebay.com

Re:Developer Joe Hewitt Tears Into Android’s Definition Of “... by kelnos on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @06:18AM (#1810639)
So then by that logic Linux itself isn't open, because manufacturers run it on locked set-top boxes.

With a bit of work you can probably get Android to run on commodity hardware.

Re:Developer Joe Hewitt Tears Into Android’s Definition Of “... by calloc on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @02:46PM (#1812341)
Those manufacturers are not touting their locked set-top boxes as being an open platform...
Re:Developer Joe Hewitt Tears Into Android’s Definition Of “... by biafra on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @04:03PM (#1812815)
I am with you here. The manufacturers should not be allowed to call their phones open if they lock the bootloader so you cannot install unsigned images.

But Android as a platform is still open. The same way that Linux is still open.

Re:Developer Joe Hewitt Tears Into Android’s Definition Of “... by kelnos on Monday November 01, 2010 @07:32AM (#1856053)
Are they? Does HTC, Samsung, etc. actually claim that their phones are "open"? It's Google calling Android open.