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Re:Ask HN: What things have richly rewarded the time investe... by leesec on Saturday September 29, 2018 @11:02AM (#18100746)
I'll counterpoint this and say chances of getting injured can be pretty low if you take your time and study up on your form.

I'll also say as someone who thought he didn't need the gym because I would do calisthenics/yoga/barbell exercises at home, my back pain never went away until I started lifting heavy weights. I'd say likely because it stregthened my core which supports the back, but I'm no sports scientist.

Re:Ask HN: What things have richly rewarded the time investe... by malmsteen on Saturday September 29, 2018 @11:17AM (#18100829)
>>> I'll counterpoint this and say chances of getting injured can be pretty low if you take your time and study up on your form.

Yes absolutely ! And you build muscle WAY MORE FASTER with real weights versus calisthenics

The two rules of the gyms are basically : no machines, and 'form before weight' (i.e. master a movements at a given weight without feeling hurt before moving up).

The only two actually dangerous movements are deadlift and squats and it takes at least a PT sesion + a few "form check " on r/fitness to get it right but once it his mastered it's all good. Alsso bench press but it really start being possibly dangerous at 80kg and you are aready quite developped anyway so you are already supposed to master the basic of form an training.

Re:Ask HN: What things have richly rewarded the time investe... by balfirevic on Saturday September 29, 2018 @02:00PM (#18101773)
> The two rules of the gyms are basically : no machines

Machines are fine and useful. Better rule might be "don't only do machines". But even then, I'm pretty sure someone experienced could design a routine that would get them good results with nothing but machines.

Re:Ask HN: What things have richly rewarded the time investe... by malmsteen on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @02:15PM (#18133068)
They provoke a "backpropagation" of the force you are exercising in the orthognonals of the machine work axis directly into your joints. Risk of injury at heavy weights. doesnt happen with free weights