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Re:Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful by kroltan on Friday September 28, 2018 @02:46PM (#18095928)
Get Thunderbird (or any other standalone email app). Extremely traditional UI, and better responsiveness due to no frill JS and no tracking.

Bonus, even read your emails offline!

<s>Innovation!</s>

Re:Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful by Animats on Friday September 28, 2018 @03:02PM (#18096096)
I've been using Thunderbird on desktops and laptops, and K9 mail on Android, for years. Works fine. All you need is an IMAP server. Mine is hosted by Sonic and comes with my DSL service.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful by colanderman on Friday September 28, 2018 @11:10PM (#18098513)
I really wish I could recommend K9 to anyone, but the search functionality is beyond broken. (I used to use it for FastMail because their own app loads oxymoronically slowly, but I just couldn't deal with the broken search functionality.) Have you found a way to work around this?
Re:Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful by RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u on Friday September 28, 2018 @03:07PM (#18096144)
Unless you work for a company that disables POP/IMAP, for allegedly security reasons.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful by mike-cardwell on Monday October 01, 2018 @04:36PM (#18116610)
On Debian, you can just go to "Online Accounts" and add a Google Account, then your Google Mail will appear in Evolution Mail. Not sure what protocol is behind it, but it works when IMAP doesn't. Bonus: Evolution Mail comes with PGP support built in.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful by vishal0123 on Saturday September 29, 2018 @01:58AM (#18098935)
Is that better than Mail for Mac? My only need is reliable syncing and fast update, which Mac's mail is ok at, but needs variable amount of time for refresh, and if I need to verify my email, I mostly just open Gmail web.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful by kroltan on Saturday September 29, 2018 @07:12PM (#18103518)
I have never used a Mac for personal use, so I can't compare.

It does have per-account adjustable syncing periods, and you can click a big ol' button to refresh immediately.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful by romwell on Friday September 28, 2018 @06:32PM (#18097610)
Opera 12 for me solely for the mail client.

(They did spin off Opera Mail as a separate app, but I see no point in it, since it's just Opera 12 with the browser part disabled).

Re:Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful by nasredin on Saturday September 29, 2018 @08:15AM (#18099935)
I recommend "The Bat!".

It's a bit clunky, but it's the best for serious people.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful by romwell on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @06:54PM (#18126392)
I've been using TheBat! around 2000-2003, back in dial-up days. It wasn't free back then (Opera wasn't either), and isn't free now.

It was/is great, but I didn't find a compelling reason for myself to shell some bucks over their way vs. using Opera Mail or Thunderbird. What are the killer features for you?

Re:Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful by erikb on Friday September 28, 2018 @03:15PM (#18096209)
there are single(!) player games now that advertise that you can play them without internet connection, as a feature.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful by shadyrudy on Friday September 28, 2018 @02:55PM (#18096022)
And sort by sender.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful by TeMPOraL on Friday September 28, 2018 @02:56PM (#18096040)
And search, in a way in which you can trust the search actually covered all your e-mails.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful by Boulth on Friday September 28, 2018 @04:14PM (#18096673)
Actually search is the worst feature of Thunderbird in my opinion and I use Thunderbird for years and think it's great otherwise. Search constantly doesn't find something even if I use the keyword thay was in the email (verified using Inbox) or poorly sorts them (relevance algorithm is really weak) or displays result threads in inconsistent manner (many emails are duplicated etc.)