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Re:Proving our universe is one among many would be a fourth ... by lisper on Friday September 28, 2018 @01:17PM (#18095069)
Well, yeah, but our perspective is the only one that can possibly matter for us. There may be unicorns and leprechauns out beyond our light cone for all we know, but what possible reason would there be to care?
Re:Proving our universe is one among many would be a fourth ... by snackman7 on Friday September 28, 2018 @03:44PM (#18096432)
Is the only reason to investigate the universe to look for ways to exploit it?
Re:Proving our universe is one among many would be a fourth ... by wallace_f on Friday September 28, 2018 @07:44PM (#18097880)
The argument is it's beyond our observable universe. It's not possible to be investigated as we can receive no information.
Re:Proving our universe is one among many would be a fourth ... by empath75 on Friday September 28, 2018 @01:39PM (#18095292)
What happens on the far side of the moon doesn't matter for us, either, but we still looked.
Re:Proving our universe is one among many would be a fourth ... by lisper on Friday September 28, 2018 @01:47PM (#18095358)
> What happens on the far side of the moon doesn't matter for us, either,

How do you know? Maybe the far side of the moon is chock-full of exploitable resources. You can't know until you look.

> but we still looked.

Sure, because we could. We cannot look beyond our light cone.

Re:Proving our universe is one among many would be a fourth ... by Retric on Friday September 28, 2018 @02:56PM (#18096037)
For now we can just by waiting. With every second we see just a little further.

Tomorrow we might look out at the stars and see the tips of giant teeth. But, probably not.

Re:Proving our universe is one among many would be a fourth ... by lisper on Friday September 28, 2018 @03:09PM (#18096151)
You don't quite understand the concept of a light cone.

Yes, we get new data all the time, and the extent of our horizon is growing. But it is always finite. You cannot look backwards past the big bang singularity, and you cannot look forwards beyond "now" for any value of "now".

Re:Proving our universe is one among many would be a fourth ... by Retric on Saturday September 29, 2018 @07:31AM (#18099823)
No, you fail to understand a light cones end at finite points. If I travel 1 light year, then I observe a different light cone and it takes 1 year for somone that stayed behind to receive information from me. This effectively means you can see something before the light cone at your current location would observe it.

If you consider a light cone as all points out to infinity then that’s the entire universe. Instead at each point in time you have a different light cone that extends to the age of the universe.

In theory we can never see past a second limit based on the expansion of the universe, but that’s yet to be observed speculation without any consistent theory of what’s going on.

Re:Proving our universe is one among many would be a fourth ... by ieo838jdkd on Friday September 28, 2018 @03:28PM (#18096311)
We can’t

But 200 years ago we “didn’t need” relativity and then we did

Asking questions and wondering about the things we don’t know is how we now know about many valuable things that, in the past, didn’t appear to be valuable

Re:Proving our universe is one among many would be a fourth ... by nbulka on Friday September 28, 2018 @04:27PM (#18096761)
You may want to temper your claims with "based on the currently accepted Standard Model" or "with high probability." Because paradigm shifts occur.
Re:Proving our universe is one among many would be a fourth ... by lisper on Friday September 28, 2018 @04:31PM (#18096796)
See my OP: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18094991

"Barring some major unforeseen revolution in our understanding of physics..."