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Re:Chile unveils Patagonian Route of Parks hiking trail by wahern on Thursday September 27, 2018 @07:59PM (#18089915)
I have a passing outsider's knowledge of Chilean history and I think it's worth noting that Chile stands out among South American nations in how thoroughly it eradicated and assimilated the indigenous populations.

Once upon a time (even up to the latter part of the 20th century) that would have been considered by most in the West[1] as a laudable achievement, and in Chile it still largely is considered so, AFAIU. Not the eradication of indigenous people's per se (which is conveniently glossed over or minimized), but in the social equality wrought by the strong cultural homogenization through waves of immigration.

But the West in the 21st century has put much more value on diversity and on preserving cultural and ethnic identities, calling into question the morality of Chilean national identity. In other Andean nations skin tone is still very much a thing; not necessarily negative--i.e. being more brown isn't necessarily negative--but nonetheless something that can figure prominently in both social and friendly discourse.

Just thought I'd mention it. Not trying to cast value judgments, but it's worthwhile to note that Chile is very much in a different place than the rest of the West in how it contextualizes these issues.

[1] Chile being politically and culturally Western no less than France or the U.S.

Re:Chile unveils Patagonian Route of Parks hiking trail by torstenvl on Thursday September 27, 2018 @08:09PM (#18089963)
> But the West in the 21st century has put much more value on diversity and on preserving cultural and ethnic identities...

Only minority identities, and only the approved ones. The West's "noble savage" narratives are almost as offensive as how it treats Wallonia or the Basques. And America loves you if you're Kurdish, but if you're a Yezidi woman they'll prosecute you for being a sex slave (forced concubinage to Da'esh apparently counts as material support of terrorism).

Re:Chile unveils Patagonian Route of Parks hiking trail by wahern on Thursday September 27, 2018 @08:47PM (#18090148)
Sure. The diversity zeitgeist is no less hypocritical or capable of prejudice than previous eras.
Re:Chile unveils Patagonian Route of Parks hiking trail by rexpop on Thursday September 27, 2018 @09:59PM (#18090413)
This is a horrific thing you have just described. Where is it documented how Yezidi women are prosecuted for supporting terrorism?
Re:Chile unveils Patagonian Route of Parks hiking trail by torstenvl on Thursday September 27, 2018 @11:01PM (#18090663)
The case below isn't a prosecution, but a deportation of a Salvadoran slave. Forced to serve terrorists under threat of death = material support for terrorism. One of the experts consulted in the preparation of the article appears to have speculated that Yezidis would be treated similarly, but I can't find an actual example of that yet.

https://theintercept.com/2018/06/09/immigration-terrorism-pr...

Re:Chile unveils Patagonian Route of Parks hiking trail by InitialLastName on Friday September 28, 2018 @02:43PM (#18095906)
So what you're saying is that you fabricated a horrific example that you can't back up with any information for to make your point?
Re:Chile unveils Patagonian Route of Parks hiking trail by zeegroen on Friday September 28, 2018 @02:19AM (#18091405)
What's the problem with Wallonia?
Re:Chile unveils Patagonian Route of Parks hiking trail by roel_v on Friday September 28, 2018 @05:23AM (#18092039)
He's trying to paint the picture that Wallonia is a repressed ethnic minority. My head spins at the level of idea-twisting it would require to claim something like that. Otoh it's also interesting to find a new trope that this guy's ideological tribe is latching on to.