Re:Protovis - A visualization toolkit for JavaScript using SVG.
by mattj on Tuesday October 19, 2010 @05:53PM
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I've used protovis for an internal graphing framework. It's absolutely, positively, 100% the best visualization tool for the web.
The syntax is easy to work with (once you get over the initial learning curve, which is somewhat steep), and it flies on a modern browser. It's the only framework out there for visualization development that's flexible enough to do interesting things with.
I think the only other comparable tool is processing (not processingjs, which is too slow for non-trivial tasks), although processing is focused on pixel manipulation whereas protovis is focused on vector drawing.
Re:Protovis - A visualization toolkit for JavaScript using SVG.
by rbancroft on Tuesday October 19, 2010 @05:31PM
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Protovis is one of the most interesting pieces of code I have looked at recently. It really opened my eyes up to the power of javascript and I learned a lot from it. The code is clean, well documented, and imo brilliant.
Re:Protovis - A visualization toolkit for JavaScript using SVG.
by samratjp on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @01:40AM
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I am not even surprised this is cool - Jeff Heer is behind it http://hci.stanford.edu/jheer/ and he's written some crazy cool frameworks - Prefuse (Java) and Flare (AS3). I'm setting my gitHub watch on this one :-)
Re:Protovis - A visualization toolkit for JavaScript using SVG.
by strebler on Tuesday October 19, 2010 @05:27PM
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It depends on what you want to want to do - this library has a wider scope than others I've seen. The closest I know would be Raphael, which is nice in that it also supports IE (Canvas): http://raphaeljs.com/
If you just want Graphs/Charts, here's a few off the top of my head:
This vis library looks really interesting to me because of its flexibility. My main concern is that it's based on SVG. I wonder how easily it could be modified to be canvas based instead. The only reason I say that is because canvas seems to be getting a lot of attention from browser vendors while SVG is languishing...
Re:Protovis - A visualization toolkit for JavaScript using SVG.
by endtime on Tuesday October 19, 2010 @04:16PM
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ProtoVis has a somewhat modular rendering backend, I believe. So you could probably rewrite it to run on canvas. That said, why do you think SVG is languishing? The IE9 demos made quite a big deal of their SVG support and the other major browsers already have pretty decent support for it.
Re:Protovis - A visualization toolkit for JavaScript using SVG.
by Construct on Tuesday October 19, 2010 @11:55PM
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Whenever I deal with SVG these days I use Google's svgweb project for near-universal compatibility: http://code.google.com/p/svgweb/
It uses native rendering when available, but falls back to a flash plugin that emulates SVG support when it isn't (meaning pre-IE9 Internet Explorer). This ends up covering ~95% of the market.
Also, I'd disagree that SVG is languishing. True, canvas is getting a lot of attention, but SVG is more than sufficiently mature to support projects like this.
Re:Protovis - A visualization toolkit for JavaScript using SVG.
by haberman on Tuesday October 19, 2010 @05:42PM
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One thing I want that none of these demos seem to have is links. If part of my visualization is describing some system entity, I want to be able to click on that entry to drill-down. The drill-down page might be a completely different page that doesn't contain a visualization at all.
I've played around with SVG, which supports links if you use "object" or "embed" tags. But if you use either of those tags, the SVG image acts more like an iframe which has scroll-bars if the SVG is too big, and clicking the link loads the page in the the SVG's little box. If you use the "img" tag then the SVG flows with the page better, but links don't work. :(
Re:Protovis - A visualization toolkit for JavaScript using SVG.
by IanOzsvald on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @05:08AM
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Here's a further demo showing a social graph (Twitter friend relations at a BarCamp) with an image hack on ProtoVis' directed force graph: http://ianozsvald.com/2010/10/05/visualising-lanyrds-social-...
It works great in Chrome/Safari and ok in Firefox. It runs like a dog on the iphone 3G. Kyran (who hacked ProtoVis) is working on a Canvas reimplementation which runs faster on mobiles.
Re:Protovis - A visualization toolkit for JavaScript using SVG.
by daniel_levine on Tuesday October 19, 2010 @04:20PM
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protovis actually moved away from canvas and into svg. There are some people working on a canvas port though as well. SVG suppost is pretty good actually in everything but IE though IE9 will support it. And that is a problem with canvas too.
The syntax is easy to work with (once you get over the initial learning curve, which is somewhat steep), and it flies on a modern browser. It's the only framework out there for visualization development that's flexible enough to do interesting things with.
I think the only other comparable tool is processing (not processingjs, which is too slow for non-trivial tasks), although processing is focused on pixel manipulation whereas protovis is focused on vector drawing.
If you just want Graphs/Charts, here's a few off the top of my head:
http://www.deensoft.com/lab/protochart/
http://www.liquidx.net/plotkit/
http://code.google.com/p/flotr/
and gRaphaël: http://g.raphaeljs.com/
spring to mind.
http://highcharts.com/license
Raphaël does.
This vis library looks really interesting to me because of its flexibility. My main concern is that it's based on SVG. I wonder how easily it could be modified to be canvas based instead. The only reason I say that is because canvas seems to be getting a lot of attention from browser vendors while SVG is languishing...
It uses native rendering when available, but falls back to a flash plugin that emulates SVG support when it isn't (meaning pre-IE9 Internet Explorer). This ends up covering ~95% of the market.
Also, I'd disagree that SVG is languishing. True, canvas is getting a lot of attention, but SVG is more than sufficiently mature to support projects like this.
I've played around with SVG, which supports links if you use "object" or "embed" tags. But if you use either of those tags, the SVG image acts more like an iframe which has scroll-bars if the SVG is too big, and clicking the link loads the page in the the SVG's little box. If you use the "img" tag then the SVG flows with the page better, but links don't work. :(
http://vis.stanford.edu/protovis/ex/tipsy.html
http://groups.google.com/group/protovis/browse_thread/thread...