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Re:How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Compa... by seanmcdirmid on Wednesday September 26, 2018 @12:20PM (#18077502)
> You can place a bit more blame on the US companies that let it happen.

This is one aspect of Chinese culture that I’ll never understand. For example, if you get cheated, it’s your fault for being lax/trusting/stupid enough to get cheated. The immorality is on the victim, which makes for some extremely paranoid business relationships when working in China.

How is that beneficial in the long term? Why doesn’t such a system just implode on itself? I guess this is where guanxi comes into play to counteract that, because I don’t see how it could work otherwise.

Re:How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Compa... by TeMPOraL on Wednesday September 26, 2018 @12:43PM (#18077760)
> The immorality is on the victim,

Does Chinese culture actually shift moral blame onto the victim? If not, then this sounds a bit like the "victim blaming" obsession of modern American culture, which misses the crucial point - there are two types of blame to be passed around here. The offender was evil - they cheated. The victim was stupid - they were aware of the danger and ignored it.

Re:How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Compa... by seanmcdirmid on Wednesday September 26, 2018 @01:12PM (#18078083)
Its more like just by simply doing business in China the victim should have been aware of the danger. There is no negative karma for doing scams, cheating, or stealing IP, only for being scammed, cheated, or having IP stolen.

It isn't really victim blaming, more like your business partner comes back to you and says "Why did you let me cheat you? This is all your fault."

Re:How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Compa... by Fjolsvith on Thursday September 27, 2018 @09:20AM (#18084150)
I've never heard of a "victim blaming" obsession of modern American culture, despite having grown up in it. Could you point me to some articles that elaborate?
Re:How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Compa... by anon92612 on Wednesday September 26, 2018 @12:55PM (#18077891)
At least in the US, you have to be cheated a second time for it to be your fault.
Re:How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Compa... by seanmcdirmid on Wednesday September 26, 2018 @01:10PM (#18078060)
Ya, in China the saying goes "trick me once, shame on me."