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Re:How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Compa... by weberc2 on Wednesday September 26, 2018 @11:55AM (#18077215)
There's no contradiction; the standards in the 1800s were much lower across the globe. These standards are no longer acceptible today.
Re:How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Compa... by chillacy on Wednesday September 26, 2018 @12:17PM (#18077467)
By whose standard? It’s awfully convenient for the United States to reap the benefits of “lower standards” and then shut the gates after they no longer need those lower standards.
Re:How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Compa... by dx87 on Wednesday September 26, 2018 @01:01PM (#18077958)
Would you consider slavery acceptable in developing nations? After all, the US benefited from it while it was growing, why should we deny the economic benefits of slavery to other countries.
Re:How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Compa... by chillacy on Wednesday September 26, 2018 @04:21PM (#18079885)
If the offer on the table for developing countries is either take the poison pill or never develop (where the poison pill is lax IP, lax environmental laws, child labor, exploiting other countries for resources), I think you'd be hard pressed to find a country which wouldn't make that sacrifice.
Re:How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Compa... by weberc2 on Wednesday September 26, 2018 @05:21PM (#18080387)
That's not the offer on the table. China is already a developed country (and they already got there by more than their share of exploitation).
Re:How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Compa... by chillacy on Saturday September 29, 2018 @04:10PM (#18102528)
Depends how you define "developed country". The world bank seems to consider GDP as the main factor, if you disagree with the common metric then you'll have to define how you see it.

China has a lot of wealth on display but overall isn't so well developed if you remember the fact that so many people live there. If China were as developed as the US, we would expect it to be something like 3x the economic activity as the US.

GDP per capita:

USA: 57k

Canada: 42k

UK: 39k

...

Kazakhstan: 8k

China: 8k

Libya: 7k

In addition by some metrics, it could be exploiting even harder to achieve further industrialization. For instance, China is way behind the US in CO2 emissions per capita even today, and if you count total CO2 emissions, the US is still #1. If China had equal CO2 emissions as the US per capita (which might indicate a similar level of industrialization), that would be disastrous.

https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/science-and-impacts/sc...

Re:How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Compa... by weberc2 on Wednesday September 26, 2018 @01:10PM (#18078066)
Global standards have improved since the 1800s. Lots of countries condemn things they once practiced. Slavery, genocide, pollution, and colonialism are all things that most prominent countries have participated in to some extent but now rightly condemn. This is the basic recipe for progress and it's a good thing.