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Re:Ask YC: PhD, yes or no? by jgrahamc on Sunday May 04, 2008 @08:08AM (#180757)
I did a PhD (actually a DPhil since that's what Oxford insists on calling it). I enjoyed doing it (managed to finish in 3 years) and it's been an asset (sometimes it's been useful to be "Dr John Graham-Cumming", although I rarely use the title), and it's always been useful to have gone to Oxford (because it has a certain brand cachet).

But.

I don't think those three years were a good investment when seen from a start-up perspective. I think three years of extra real-world experience would have been more valuable.

Re:Ask YC: PhD, yes or no? by aswanson on Sunday May 04, 2008 @08:33AM (#180762)
Did you learn anything in your studies at that level that you still use?
Re:Ask YC: PhD, yes or no? by jgrahamc on Sunday May 04, 2008 @09:06AM (#180779)
I'd have to say 'no'. I did a DPhil by pure research and had to produce a thesis of original work. That means that I did my own learning with some guidance. My thesis is all about provably secure computer systems (using CSP) and I developed an algebra for reasoning about secure systems.

I've never used any of this stuff.

There are plenty of things that I learnt as an undergraduate that I use, however.

Re:Ask YC: PhD, yes or no? by prakash on Sunday May 04, 2008 @08:39AM (#180763)
That's one way to look at it, the other is to understand the analytic thinking, rigor, patience, new ideas you get out of it -- these are hard to quantify.
Re:Ask YC: PhD, yes or no? by jgrahamc on Sunday May 04, 2008 @09:07AM (#180781)
But I think I got most of those things from the undergraduate degree.
Re:Ask YC: PhD, yes or no? by nomad4224 on Sunday May 04, 2008 @11:26AM (#180833)
I think it's a question of sharpening research skills. It's a qualitative deepening of critical thinking, and the step far beyond passable or great to great and original.

I think it's a bit like comparing high school math with university math. Or like saying that you can program after taking a single programing course. :)

Similar skills can be gained elsewhere, are other skill sets are often needed in industry.

I have to agree with the rest - do a PhD if you clearly want to do research/work in academia. If you're just doing it for the credentials - stay far,far away. You might survive, but you will be utterly miserable.

Re:Ask YC: PhD, yes or no? by aneesh on Sunday May 04, 2008 @10:45AM (#180818)
I'm still an undergrad and wondering the same. Is it ever worth it primarily for the credibility? (outside of academia)