Re:When Do We Have Empathy for the Mentally Ill?
by samatman on Tuesday September 25, 2018 @08:39AM
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Occam's razor is the simplest explanation, not the simplest statement.
Tautology has no explanatory power.
Re:When Do We Have Empathy for the Mentally Ill?
by DanBC on Tuesday September 25, 2018 @05:19PM
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Incorrect explanations have less explanatory power.
Re:When Do We Have Empathy for the Mentally Ill?
by samatman on Wednesday September 26, 2018 @06:04AM
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This is true, but Occam's Razor is "the simplest explanation is usually correct", so we have an infinite regress.
Re:When Do We Have Empathy for the Mentally Ill?
by westoncb on Tuesday September 25, 2018 @04:02PM
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Not if they've already been diagnosed with a mental illness, which is the situation at hand.
Re:When Do We Have Empathy for the Mentally Ill?
by DanBC on Tuesday September 25, 2018 @05:18PM
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ok, so this is more like the Linda Problem. It is more likely that a person is a shitty person than a person is a shitty person and has a mental illness.
Re:When Do We Have Empathy for the Mentally Ill?
by westoncb on Tuesday September 25, 2018 @05:42PM
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Hmm, there's an element you've left out of the situation that makes it different from a straight Linda Problem though. In logical terms, it looks like this.
mental_illness -> shittiness
being_a_naturally_shitty_person -> shittiness
And we know know two things: 1) the person in question is exhibiting shittiness 2) the person in question has been diagnosed with a mental illness. So: mental_illness = true
shittiness = true
Whether being_a_naturally_shitty_person is true or false is something we have no information on.So, from that starting point, we already have an account for the shittiness being exhibited since:
mental_illness -> shittiness
and
mental_ilness = true
So if we want to go ahead and make the additional claim that being_a_naturally_shitty_person = true —you're violating Occam's Razor by introducing an unnecessary second cause when we already had a sufficient first one.
Occam's razor prefers the first, right? You're introducing an additional explanation.