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Re:Am I logged in or not? GDPR case study on the example of ... by reificator on Monday September 24, 2018 @03:38PM (#18060736)
They may understand it on a superficial level, but do they understand it on a practical one?

Everyone "understands" that Facebook collects user data. It's the contextual understanding that makes techies uneasy.

Re:Am I logged in or not? GDPR case study on the example of ... by throwawaymath on Monday September 24, 2018 @03:51PM (#18060837)
What you're saying is a pretty condescending way to treat other people's opinions. You're essentially questioning whether or not they really understand (complete with scare quotes) if they don't share your opinion.

It's not the "contextual understanding" - or any kind of understanding - that makes some techies uneasy. It's their own opinions and personal comfortability with regard to data monetization. Many people understand their data is monetized in myriad ways and fully don't care. Asking if they actually understand is only going to patronize them.

Re:Am I logged in or not? GDPR case study on the example of ... by reificator on Monday September 24, 2018 @05:46PM (#18061738)
I get where you're coming from, but it applies to me equally in plenty of other domains.

There are countless things I understand the basics of but am not an expert in. That's why we specialize, because we can't be experts in everything all the time.

I don't mean it to be condescending, I mean to express that I can know that stars are powered by nuclear reactions and yet not have a firm grasp of what that really entails.

Most people, including myself, have a shallow understanding of a lot of things, and a deep understanding of very few things relatively speaking.

Re:Am I logged in or not? GDPR case study on the example of ... by Aeolun on Monday September 24, 2018 @07:26PM (#18062358)
And yet, given a parallel into what is happening as if it were a different company ‘e.g. would you be fine with our man standing outside your house and observing your every movement as a condition of service’, most of these people that ‘understand’ switch to WTF?! No! If you then ask them to stop using Chrome or Facebook it’s suddenly ‘different’.

The only thing that’s different is that they can remain blissfully unaware of it.

Re:Am I logged in or not? GDPR case study on the example of ... by ddingus on Monday September 24, 2018 @04:07PM (#18060964)
Actually, they are questioning whether understanding makes sense, given people are unaware, uninformed.

The answer on all that is advocacy.

They may still not care, and that is fine. At least it is with eyes wide open.

Professionals do that sort of thing. It is consideration, not condescension.

Re:Am I logged in or not? GDPR case study on the example of ... by rifung on Monday September 24, 2018 @06:20PM (#18061978)
I mean I'm a "techie" and I think I understand. I still don't care..
Re:Am I logged in or not? GDPR case study on the example of ... by reificator on Monday September 24, 2018 @06:27PM (#18062023)
Didn't say you had to...
Re:Am I logged in or not? GDPR case study on the example of ... by rifung on Monday September 24, 2018 @07:09PM (#18062277)
Earlier comment said "Once people understand, they care."

Your comment basically implied "maybe they don't really understand which is why they don't care".

So I am refuting the original statement because I presumably do understand, and I still don't care.

Re:Am I logged in or not? GDPR case study on the example of ... by propogandist on Tuesday September 25, 2018 @07:31AM (#18065358)
It seems he's employed by Google
Re:Am I logged in or not? GDPR case study on the example of ... by rifung on Tuesday September 25, 2018 @12:50PM (#18068038)
What does that have to do with my opinion about not being concerned about my Facebook use..?
Re:Am I logged in or not? GDPR case study on the example of ... by ionised on Wednesday September 26, 2018 @10:39AM (#18076389)
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
Re:Am I logged in or not? GDPR case study on the example of ... by rifung on Thursday September 27, 2018 @02:34PM (#18087384)
I started using FB well before I joined Google =]