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Re:Apology Critics Who Want to Teach You How to Say You’re S... by darkerside on Sunday September 23, 2018 @05:08PM (#18053222)
I understand the frustration with egregious non-apologies. Many of those cases are not accidents; they are passive aggressive double downs.

But if an apology has even a shred of sincerity in it, I don't believe snarky critique is at all appropriate in any way. Saying "You apologized wrong" to someone who is trying to take positive steps is counterproductive, mean-spirited, and extremely poor etiquette.

Re:Apology Critics Who Want to Teach You How to Say You’re S... by Ws32ok on Sunday September 23, 2018 @10:14PM (#18054560)
I'm not sure an apology for murdering my family would be heard without a lot of anger and resentment. Other concepts such as revenge, retribution and other sentiments would likely also come to into play regardless of sincerity.

You make a good point about the snarky critique though. Having looked through a few of the dead comments on this post, a lot of people are very rigid about sensitivity training. There are a lot of parallels with SJW causes in how this is being approached.

(I am not equating those parallels with the validity of sensitivity training, only the rabid nature of the defence against criticism thereof I have seen).

Re:Apology Critics Who Want to Teach You How to Say You’re S... by darkerside on Monday September 24, 2018 @06:48AM (#18056572)
Yeah, and the proper response to that killer is not, "you apologized incorrectly". It's just completely irrelevant. The later half of my post assumed you are ready to forgive.
Re:Apology Critics Who Want to Teach You How to Say You’re S... by Ws32ok on Tuesday September 25, 2018 @06:52AM (#18065180)
The Amish have industrial strength belief in the power of forgiveness. The mind boggles at the power of their belief. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/02/amish-shooti...
Re:Apology Critics Who Want to Teach You How to Say You’re S... by myWindoonn on Sunday September 23, 2018 @05:17PM (#18053278)
Think carefully. Is there anybody who you have known who has wronged you or those you care about in such a way that, even if they were to apologize to you, you might not accept the apology if it failed to move you?

Sure, the folks quoted in the article might be irritating in tone, but the concept is not without considerability.

Re:Apology Critics Who Want to Teach You How to Say You’re S... by darkerside on Sunday September 23, 2018 @08:33PM (#18054191)
No. If I'm ready to forgive someone I do it. If I'm not, I don't. I'm not going to put someone through some stupid kind of eloquence litmus test when I decide whether to accept their apology.
Re:Apology Critics Who Want to Teach You How to Say You’re S... by acct1771 on Monday September 24, 2018 @12:55AM (#18055123)
Not even...say..looking you in the eyes?

If so, that's weak, man.

Re:Apology Critics Who Want to Teach You How to Say You’re S... by darkerside on Monday September 24, 2018 @06:46AM (#18056559)
What's weak is being swayed that someone is deserving of forgiveness by their words if I don't feel that in my heart. Sorry if that was sarcasm.