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Re:No Sex Please, We’re Apple: iPhone Giant Seeks TV Success... by reaperducer on Sunday September 23, 2018 @12:44AM (#18049444)
I’m OK with this.

The market is already saturated with entertainment that is little more than shock value. There’s a reason that channels like GSN, RFD, MeTV, etc... have growing audiences. As some point people want their entertainment to be entertaining, not a stream of sensory overload.

If Apple goes all-in in this programming strategy, we’ll have a better idea how popular this sort of thing really is.

Re:No Sex Please, We’re Apple: iPhone Giant Seeks TV Success... by belorn on Sunday September 23, 2018 @04:16AM (#18050021)
There are two paths to reduced how much shock value and sensory overload there is. Either culturally we can change and view sex and nudity as less shocking and simply part of life, or we reinforce old values by making it more taboo.

I would prefer entertainment to be more entertaining by simply viewing sex and nudity as less shocking.

Re:No Sex Please, We’re Apple: iPhone Giant Seeks TV Success... by DoreenMichele on Monday September 24, 2018 @01:24AM (#18055227)
The way to make a body part sexy is to cover it and keep it covered. Letting it all hang out, all the time actually reduces sexiness.

There are huge social, psychological and emotional components to human sexuality. The physical aspects are just one piece of the equation.

There are consequences to making it all too prosaic to have everything on display and they aren't all positive by any stretch of the imagination.

Re:No Sex Please, We’re Apple: iPhone Giant Seeks TV Success... by krageon on Monday September 24, 2018 @08:49AM (#18057220)
You're presenting this as a set of hard facts, where in reality you are just telling us about your subjective view of sexuality. That's natural, but perhaps there is a more neutral way to word your stance if that's the case.
Re:No Sex Please, We’re Apple: iPhone Giant Seeks TV Success... by DoreenMichele on Monday September 24, 2018 @11:10AM (#18058318)
That's not my subjective view. It is historical and well documented fact that cultures cover and keep covered body parts they deem sexual. There is lots of literature on the subject, anywhere from articles noting that the first pair of shorts in spring is a big deal, but by the end of summer people are inured to it, to testimony from people who participate in nudist colonies that people walking around nude all the time takes the sex out of nudity.

I have spoken to someone who went to nudist colonies. He told me outsiders always imagine it's all sex, all the time but it absolutely is the opposite of that. Most people aren't especially sexy when running around naked to begin with and when you normalize nudity, it further reduces the sexual element.

Just because you aren't familiar with the literature doesn't mean I'm making stuff up here.

Re:No Sex Please, We’re Apple: iPhone Giant Seeks TV Success... by reaperducer on Sunday September 23, 2018 @03:51PM (#18052797)
That seems like a very simplistic view. Life is not boolean, and neither are human beings. Denigrating a particular point of view as "old" and using "taboo" illustrates that you've already closed your mind to alternatives.

Some of the most shocking and suspenseful films ever made had little to no nudity or violence. They did so through good writing and production. Throwing a bunch of blood or boobs on the screen is cheap and easy and attracts like-minded audiences. Making quality entertainment is hard.

Also, thinking that blood and gore and nudity never existed in entertainment before the modern age and that the "old" values were puritanical is simply false. Shock value has existed as long as there have been books printed, movies made, and photos captured. The things published today have nothing on some of the illustrated gore from the 16th century.

Re:No Sex Please, We’re Apple: iPhone Giant Seeks TV Success... by chillacy on Sunday September 23, 2018 @08:28PM (#18054172)
To add: entertainment 200 years ago was watching a criminal get hanged in the town square.
Re:No Sex Please, We’re Apple: iPhone Giant Seeks TV Success... by aldanor on Monday September 24, 2018 @08:08AM (#18056964)
Which, I believe, didn't have enormous shock value either. Like, just another criminal getting hanged...
Re:No Sex Please, We’re Apple: iPhone Giant Seeks TV Success... by amag on Sunday September 23, 2018 @07:12PM (#18053858)
I wish they would go a little bit further in their restraints, also not ok:

* Giganormous battles between robots, demons, superheroes, mutants or aliens in CG (puppets/masks/costume/makeup is ok).

* Two mortal enemies that need to coöperate (no you're not going to bring a new angle to this, and no it won't be funny).

* Anything including a magical database or magical computer programs that will do whatever you need right now.

* Time-travel in non-scifi movies/series (e.g. super-assassin in Jason Bourne traveling from Rome to Athens and arrives five minutes after Jason Bourne was spotted).

Maybe then we could get some movies that depend on good writing...or maybe I'm just dreaming...

Re:No Sex Please, We’re Apple: iPhone Giant Seeks TV Success... by SllX on Sunday September 23, 2018 @03:14AM (#18049823)
Adding onto this, Apple is just one more production company in a competitive field. Either their original movies and shows will stand up on their own and find an audience, or they won't, and choosing not to produce adult-oriented shows/movies won't really affect the calculus too much.

Maybe they don't produce the next Game of Thrones, but maybe they make their own in-house Pixar, or maybe they could try to do either or both and still fail as a production company.

Re:No Sex Please, We’re Apple: iPhone Giant Seeks TV Success... by jjeaff on Sunday September 23, 2018 @03:30AM (#18049862)
It couldn't hurt to get a large number of apple employees using Apple products to produce animated films and other cinematic stuff.

Let their own employees tell them how they are screwing things up for their power users. Perhaps they could win back some of the market share for high end producers.

Re:No Sex Please, We’re Apple: iPhone Giant Seeks TV Success... by scarface74 on Sunday September 23, 2018 @11:39AM (#18051542)
That’s the purpose of “Pro Workflow Team” at Apple. https://www.macstories.net/linked/the-mac-pro-is-coming-in-2...
Re:No Sex Please, We’re Apple: iPhone Giant Seeks TV Success... by reaperducer on Sunday September 23, 2018 @07:41PM (#18053978)
maybe they make their own in-house Pixar

It would be interesting to see if there was a mandate to use Apple gear in the render farm.