Re:Decline of Global Extreme Poverty Continues but Has Slowed
by thelasthuman on Monday September 24, 2018 @11:11AM
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It's possible for the workers to buy their own tool and maintain some level of democracy in the workplace.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation
I think it's disingenuous to think the only way workers can own the means of production is to take them from someone else.
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete."
If I have some money, and you have some money, and I buy a tool and you buy some beer, I have a tool and you don't - so I'm stealing from you? [Edit: Note that the "means of production" can be as simple as a wrench, or a sewing machine, or a welder.] Step away from the marxist koolaid, you've had a bit much...
And you're only a half step away from theft yourself. Stating that "the private ownership of means of production is theft" leads almost inevitably to "therefore the public need to take back the means of production from those who have them". That's theft.
> I haven't set out to persuade you
You sure haven't. Stating as fact things that are completely outrageous from the other person's perspective is not a very good tactic of persuasion.
> ... if you seek to persuade yourself of what is just I have no doubt you will reject capitalism.
You should doubt. You should also find a better line; "if you really seek truth and justice you'll agree with me" is a manipulative cop-out. You want me to be persuaded? Make a convincing argument that makes sense to someone who doesn't already agree with you.