Re:After Five Years of Living in Trees, a Protest Community ...
by whatshisface on Friday September 21, 2018 @05:31PM
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People avoid calling themselves -ist-s because when you identify yourself with a group you're bringing on to yourself a series of judgments spanning the other person's entire experience with that group. To abuse the saying, "you don't know where that's been."
Re:After Five Years of Living in Trees, a Protest Community ...
by cuboidGoat on Saturday September 22, 2018 @04:19AM
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I do not like defining myself with '-ists'. Instead I will generally refer to the '-ism' and point out where I agree and where I differ.
I have found this position has the side-effect of being an easy way to spot who is just playing team sports with philosophies. They are the folk who get really angry with people who agree with them on specifics, purely for not using a subject label self-referentially.
Re:After Five Years of Living in Trees, a Protest Community ...
by Retra on Friday September 21, 2018 @08:07PM
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Personally, I'd rather be bold and let people associate me with the title they don't like. At least then they may have an opportunity to question their assumptions.
Re:After Five Years of Living in Trees, a Protest Community ...
by whatshisface on Friday September 21, 2018 @10:24PM
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If the last neo-vefaminist they met was a great person, you'd be free-riding on a reputation that you hadn't earned yet. If the last neo-vefaminist they met was a terrible person (potentially someone who was free-riding on the name), and if you call yourself a neo-vefaminist, you're communicating to them that you're a terrible person which would be incorrect because you aren't.
Re:After Five Years of Living in Trees, a Protest Community ...
by yjftsjthsd-h on Friday September 21, 2018 @10:57PM
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I'd rather expect that they will question you long before their own assumptions.
I guess you're probably just saying you don't identify or maybe agree with some other environmentalists, which also makes sense. The straw ban is a great example. Sometimes you can agree on what's important but disagree about what to do about it.
I think this is the same complex process the word "feminism" gets put through. It's hard to find people who will outright say, "I think women should still have to ask permission from their husbands to seek work," for example. It's easy to find people who are quick to add, "... not that I'm a feminist or anything."
I don't know. Words are funny. At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter whether you qualify as some kind of *-ist, but those words are one way we get convinced that other groups of people are opponents, instead of peers. (... one way that unscrupulous people intentionally convince us, depending on your level of cynicism.)