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Re:New York inmate's golf drawings lead to exoneration in mu... by fastball on Friday September 21, 2018 @09:53AM (#18039686)
I think the French police and judicial system are about the same. They just aren't discovering the innocents they've put in prison because they don't have wide-spread, well-funded initiatives like the Innocence Project to do that work.

Remember, you can't really "look at the stats" when it comes to how many innocent people you've imprisoned until after the fact. You only know the count once you've actually put in the time to find innocent people in prison. My claim is that France is not doing this, so you can't really say they're 6x better. Unless countries are exerting the same effort to root out innocent prisoners, it's impossible to tell if a lower rate is due to an actually lower occurrence, or if it's due to a lower rate of discovery.

My original point was that I think all countries have an "imprisoning innocents" problem, and all countries have a racism problem. It just looks worse in the US because we're actually bothering to do the due diligence.

Re:New York inmate's golf drawings lead to exoneration in mu... by olavk on Saturday September 22, 2018 @05:28AM (#18045245)
Just to be clear, do you understand what it means to say that the incarceration rate is six times higher in the US?
Re:New York inmate's golf drawings lead to exoneration in mu... by fastball on Monday September 24, 2018 @12:08AM (#18054940)
Yes.

Just to be clear, do you understand that not every person incarcerated is innocent, and that is consequently an entirely different statistic/rate?

Re:New York inmate's golf drawings lead to exoneration in mu... by olavk on Monday September 24, 2018 @03:53AM (#18055788)
No, I do not believe that it is an "entirely independent" statistics/rate. I believe they are very closely related. But if you sincerely believe they are entirely independent statistics then I kind of understand the logic of your argument.