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Re:Titans of Mathematics Clash Over Epic Proof of ABC Conjec... by kstrauser on Thursday September 20, 2018 @06:17PM (#18035869)
I think you're exactly right. Mochizuki's work may or may not turn out to be sound, but in the mean time he's failed to communicate it to other experts, even when they've met with him in person for the specific goal of understanding his reasoning.

It's not sufficient to have a great idea, or even to be right about it. You have to be able to explain it thoroughly enough that other qualified peers can understand your logic enough to weigh in on it. That seems not to have happened yet hear.

Re:Titans of Mathematics Clash Over Epic Proof of ABC Conjec... by fjsolwmv on Thursday September 20, 2018 @09:44PM (#18036643)
It's sufficient for Mochizuki. Everyone else can decide for themselves what is sufficient for them.
Re:Titans of Mathematics Clash Over Epic Proof of ABC Conjec... by busyant on Friday September 21, 2018 @01:13AM (#18037299)
> It's sufficient for Mochizuki. Everyone else can decide for themselves

This sounds like a variant of the Turing test.

Mochizuki and your pet dog both claim to have proven the ABC conjecture. The ABC conjecture has been proven when you can understand one proof but not the other.

Re:Titans of Mathematics Clash Over Epic Proof of ABC Conjec... by falcor84 on Friday September 21, 2018 @08:42AM (#18039239)
I love your idea in principle, but it would be very problematic, and very sensitive to the tester's prior experience. I think that many people would (un)naturally be more trustful of mathematically-looking squiggles than a dog's barks, while others, especially if they got burned by damn lies before, would inherently distrust mathematics. In any case, people are very prone to trying to complete gaps in their understanding of a speaker based on prior conceptions.
Re:Titans of Mathematics Clash Over Epic Proof of ABC Conjec... by busyant on Friday September 21, 2018 @05:32PM (#18042819)
I can't edit my post, but I should have phrased it more pithily:

Mochizuki and your pet dog both claim to have proven the ABC conjecture. The ABC conjecture has been proven when you can tell the difference between the two proofs.

Re:Titans of Mathematics Clash Over Epic Proof of ABC Conjec... by kstrauser on Friday September 21, 2018 @01:49AM (#18037420)
Presumably he’d like recognition for having proven it. Unless he can explain and communicate his theorem to others, his work won’t be accepted. That doesn’t seem sufficient.