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Re:Should Kids Be Paid to Do Well in School? by sliverstorm on Monday October 18, 2010 @02:32AM (#1802573)
If you provide a source of external motivation, they will never find the motivation within themselves to learn, and thus will be screwed as soon as you remove that external motivation.

In other words, as soon as you stop paying them to learn, they will stop learning. You set them up for failure by removing the chance to learn to be self-motivated.

Re:Should Kids Be Paid to Do Well in School? by jessriedel on Monday October 18, 2010 @02:43AM (#1802594)
This is exactly the kind of conventional wisdom that needs to be actually tested, rather than assumed.
Re:Should Kids Be Paid to Do Well in School? by arn on Monday October 18, 2010 @03:00AM (#1802622)
exactly, reading through the article, the researcher got a lot of negative feedback (death threats) throughout the course. He wasn't ever saying we necessarily should be providing financial incentives, but he was asking if they work or not before automatically deciding against them.

it reminds me of an article I read about some organization doing scientific studies on charity. I wish I had the link handy.

There was once instance where people would charge people in 3rd world countries a nominal fee for HIV medications, thinking that the compliance in taking the medications would increase if you assigned some non-zero value to it. they did a formal study and found that it was less effective overall than just giving away the medicine.

Re:Should Kids Be Paid to Do Well in School? by sliverstorm on Monday October 18, 2010 @04:01AM (#1802686)
Yes, you're probably right. I'm just always stumped by the part where you can't try a dry-run in educational theory- you actually have to try it out, and you run the risk of screwing up a kid's education.
Re:Should Kids Be Paid to Do Well in School? by jessriedel on Monday October 18, 2010 @05:13AM (#1802782)
Seems easier than the situation in medicine. I have fewer moral qualms about testing experimental educational techniques on students than I do about testing experimental medicine on patients, especially if the students (or the students' parents) are compensated by an amount that make them willing subjects.
Re:Should Kids Be Paid to Do Well in School? by chii on Monday October 18, 2010 @02:36AM (#1802579)
See, what if they can never be intrinsically motivated? no body wants to do "work" - by providing extrinsic motivation, you at least achieve the result (of making them learn something). Who knows, why might even become good at what they learnt, and turns that into a career.
Re:Should Kids Be Paid to Do Well in School? by hoop on Monday October 18, 2010 @02:44AM (#1802595)
If someone can't ever be intrinsically motivated, then they are likely suffering from psychological inertia (apathy) and there are other, more pertinent issues to address. IANAPsychologist