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Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by icedchai on Monday September 17, 2018 @09:29PM (#18011642)
DST feels more natural to me. When the clocks go back in November, the "dark times" begin, and it's depressing as hell.
Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by H1Supreme on Monday September 17, 2018 @10:59PM (#18012130)
In my experience, most people feel this way. More daylight after noon is more desirable for the majority of us who work a 9-5 type of job.

I'm curious how many people are confused about which part of the year is Daylight Savings Time. I've corrected people who "hate daylight savings" on a few occasions. They had it backwards.

Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by TomK32 on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:21AM (#18012447)
it's mad to fit our inner body-clock and live around something as arbitary as a 9-5 and the railroad clock...
Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by toyg on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @04:01AM (#18013390)
Millions of years of evolving to fit our environment, and then an asshole invents “office hours” and we’re all screwed. File under “qwerty-level bad choices”.
Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by coldtea on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @04:53AM (#18013587)
>and then an asshole invents “office hours” and we’re all screwed

Assholes invent all kinds of things. It's those who enforce and tolerate it at fault.

>File under “qwerty-level bad choices”

Qwerty wasn't actually that bad, and Dvorak was more like self-promoted infomercial-snake-oil-style cargo-cult

https://www.utdallas.edu/~liebowit/keys1.html

Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by deanmen on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @05:14PM (#18019193)
That study is disputed: http://dvorak.mwbrooks.com/dissent.html

Moreover, people in modern times have attempted to create improved keyboard layouts (e.g. BEPO, Coleman) which are also better for typing Unix commands, suggesting that such a rearrangement may be helpful etiher for reducing RSI or for increased speed.

Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by dkersten on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @02:21PM (#18026422)
I personally use Colemak for comfort and it is great to type on. The key presses just seem to flow from beneath my fingertips without effort. My typing speed isn’t very high, but colemak greatly improves the comfort and accuracy of my typing. I also use an ergonomic keyboard because I’m at risk of RSI, though (my day job is programming and one of my hobbies is alright of hand, both are rough on my hands) and being a programmer, my hands are very, very important to me. I’m surprised that so few programmers take care of their hands.
Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by rlkf on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @08:09AM (#18023582)
The Liebowitz and Margolis article doesn't really bring anything to the table; it seems to just be an attempt to showcase market efficiency or something. Take this from someone who is both an economist and have actually tried the Dvorak keyboard: I believe August Dvorak much more than the authors of this piece.

But the nice things about keyboard layouts in the digital age is that it doesn't matter: You can believe that it's all hogwash and continue clunking Qwerty.

Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by toyg on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @06:55AM (#18014123)
Colemak and Workman are on another level. Qwerty should go the way of buggy-whips.
Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by ttsda on Thursday September 20, 2018 @01:52PM (#18034274)
That would be when some asshole invented artificial lighting, surely.
Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by icedchai on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @08:49AM (#18014787)
Many people hate it during the transition... when the hour moves forward, and you have to re-adjust. I can understand that.
Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by baddox on Monday September 17, 2018 @09:38PM (#18011675)
That’s my experience. I always feel like the clocks move in the wrong direction in November.
Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by vectorEQ on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @02:38AM (#18013010)
this feeling made me realise how clocks and time influence our daily lives, and not care so much for such accurate timekeeping. i think most people would never need to be confronted with such things. it should be transparent to the user so to say... if some business or government processes require it, which i doubt unless they were constructed in a specific way to fit it, they can use their own time juggling devices for that. :s

people are so obsessed about time, all the time! it just cause them unneccesry stress. maybe if these kind of things are changed, people will start to look in other areas how time is affecting them and also make adjustments there to live more free and relaxed.

now i know some things are stuck with specific times, public transport, work times etc., but even there you can make your life so that you don't need to worry about it or have it influence you. i usually get up far before i need to leave for work, so i dont need to worry about catching the train or not, i can just get the next one, or the one after that. subsequently i also don't ever need to worry about that start time of work, because that's tied to the same mechanism. it saves tons of stress in the morning, which makes all days feel much much more relaxed even though i'm doing the same things and not missing time sensitive appointments (not to cause others stress because of their obsession of time!).

time is a funny thing, and one needs to be careful how to use it. it's arguably just a construct of our imagination, so don't let it be a nightmare ;D

Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by cheschire on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @06:32AM (#18014023)
I stopped wearing a watch several years ago, and I never really adopted carrying a cell phone with me everywhere, so I started relying on clocks being where ever I would end up needing them. When there wasn't a clock hanging, I would typically find a person to ask, or a computer screen to glance at.

It's amazing how many places would benefit from hanging a simple clock. Airports, for example...

Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by superflyguy on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @08:01AM (#18014449)
Don't you mean "it's amazing how many times I'd be better off wearing a watch/carry a cell phone"?
Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by kaybe on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @07:55AM (#18014410)
I am really confused about the lack of clocks in airports. Train stations usually have plenty, but airports usually close to none. Why?!
Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by 24gttghh on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @08:34AM (#18014689)
Theory: There are arrival/departure time screens everywhere and those have the current time on them?
Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by kaybe on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @11:16AM (#18016003)
You'd think, but the really big old ones don't actually have the current time, and the screens in the departure area are usually small and less frequent than I'd like.
Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by 24gttghh on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @03:39PM (#18027083)
Second theory: Planes are late constantly and the airport/airlines don't want to keep reminding people how late the flight is; apart from the obvious intercom announcements, that is.
Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by ken on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @10:17AM (#18015505)
I think this is a good argument against DST. I realized a few years ago that I don't need to wear a watch because I'm never in any place that doesn't have a clock. Unfortunately, a lot of clock don't get changed promptly for DST.

Here in Seattle, it seems the transit clocks are always changed a month or two (!) after each DST change. Some public clocks never get changed. There's a significant fraction of the year where I simply can't trust any clock I see.

Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by Angostura on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @07:15AM (#18014205)
Its amazing how useful a watch is.
Re:EU to stop changing the clocks in 2019 by iforgotpassword on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:52PM (#18017539)
you're an adult, you'll live. i still remember how as kids we hated walking to school when it was all dark in the morning. end of summer time was a blessing. so if we really do away with dst i really hope we go for standard time.