Re:Linus Torvalds apologizes for his behavior, takes time off
by arkades on Sunday September 16, 2018 @06:49PM
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I mean, you did just spin it into its worst interpretation. I read the grandparent post as meaning, "Be brutal when the least ego / public stature is at risk, but never cut people down in front of their peers."
Re:Linus Torvalds apologizes for his behavior, takes time off
by JoshTriplett on Sunday September 16, 2018 @07:00PM
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That assumes the only problem with being brutal is making people look bad in front of their peers. That's far from the only problem with being brutal.
Re:Linus Torvalds apologizes for his behavior, takes time off
by arkades on Sunday September 16, 2018 @07:50PM
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I make no such assumption, and I'm not a fan of brutality. I'm not endorsing his position, I'm just rephrasing it as what I believe he meant to say.
I'm also not a fan of intentionally putting the worst possible spin on someone's words. Reading charitably is pretty much always a net positive for any thread.
Re:Linus Torvalds apologizes for his behavior, takes time off
by dang on Sunday September 16, 2018 @08:00PM
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arkades is right, and there's a site guideline that specifically addresses this: Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. It's easily plausible that one of blazespin's concerns is not to humiliate people in front of their peers.
This is a problem with this sort of discussion generally: a lot of the people arguing for others not to treat each other badly, treat others very badly indeed whilst arguing it.
Re:Linus Torvalds apologizes for his behavior, takes time off
by JoshTriplett on Sunday September 16, 2018 @08:08PM
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I could certainly have phrased my comment more clearly.
My point was not necessarily that that was what they were saying, but rather, that that is a likely outcome of that approach.
I've added an edit to my original comment clarifying this.
I wonder why people don't appreciate that advice.
"Direct" does not need to go hand-in-hand with "brutal". Don't change your behavior based on who's watching; people deserve to be treated well regardless.
EDIT: For clarity, I'm not necessarily suggesting this is the intention, but rather, that this would be the net effect, and a problem with that approach.