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Re:Alleged AMD EPYC ‘Rome’ 7nm Based 64 Core Processor Perfo... by dougmwne on Sunday September 16, 2018 @12:30AM (#17997310)
>You heard it, right folks, AMD’s 2019 CPU family is designed to tackle the Intel 10nm Ice Lake Xeons favorably and things are looking really good for AMD as their Rome CPU family will only be competing against Intel’s 14nm++ server refreshed family, aka Cascade Lake-SP.

More evidence that AMD may soon pull ahead in the performance race as they take good advantage of Intel's 10nm stumble.

Re:Alleged AMD EPYC ‘Rome’ 7nm Based 64 Core Processor Perfo... by CoolGuySteve on Sunday September 16, 2018 @02:03AM (#17997535)
We already saw that the Threadripper 2990 is starved for bandwidth between Zen packages due to the infinity fabric design.

So you get incredible cinebench performance (and some other 'embarrassingly parallel' workloads), but it doesn't scale to other kinds of programs that have more interthread/interprocess communication.

I guess it remains to be seen what happens with EPYC, but my initial guess is that it will have a similar infinity fabric design to hit 64 cores/128 hyperthreads.

BTW has anyone done an R mclapply benchmark on Threadripper 2990? I was set to buy one until I saw the uneven benchmark scores.

Re:Alleged AMD EPYC ‘Rome’ 7nm Based 64 Core Processor Perfo... by TheGuyWhoCodes on Sunday September 16, 2018 @07:18AM (#17998378)
Yes, infinity fabric has limitations. Threadripper suffers in memory intensive workloads because only half of the CCXs have a dedicated memory controller thus some cores need to talk to another CCX to access memory. On EPYC each CCX has its own memory controller so it's less of an issue.
Re:Alleged AMD EPYC ‘Rome’ 7nm Based 64 Core Processor Perfo... by jesuslop on Sunday September 16, 2018 @03:39AM (#17997791)
Bad interthread is tolerable as long as concurrent running from cache is good
Re:Alleged AMD EPYC ‘Rome’ 7nm Based 64 Core Processor Perfo... by bryanlarsen on Sunday September 16, 2018 @12:36AM (#17997323)
Twice the number of cores compared to first generation EPYC with its main competitor misfiring. So do they go for profit and double the price or go for market share and keep it the same? As both a consumer and a stock holder, I'm hoping for closer to the latter.
Re:Alleged AMD EPYC ‘Rome’ 7nm Based 64 Core Processor Perfo... by nwmcsween on Sunday September 16, 2018 @12:39AM (#17997330)
Supply vs demand but it would be smart to discount low end server class CPUs for market share (not the 64 core CPU).
Re:Alleged AMD EPYC ‘Rome’ 7nm Based 64 Core Processor Perfo... by mrep on Sunday September 16, 2018 @12:28AM (#17997305)
Anyone here familiar with overall performance / server costs to give an insight if AMD might actually become competitive considering with all the hype around AMD these days, I have still yet to see any of the 3 major providers offer an AMD chip?
Re:Alleged AMD EPYC ‘Rome’ 7nm Based 64 Core Processor Perfo... by patrickg_zill on Sunday September 16, 2018 @08:32AM (#17998611)
I don't know about offering the latest chips, but Dell and HP at least, have offered AMD based servers for many years now...?
Re:Alleged AMD EPYC ‘Rome’ 7nm Based 64 Core Processor Perfo... by homero on Sunday September 16, 2018 @12:53AM (#17997362)
AMD needs their own foundry again
Re:Alleged AMD EPYC ‘Rome’ 7nm Based 64 Core Processor Perfo... by foepys on Sunday September 16, 2018 @01:37AM (#17997473)
Global Foundries just recently scrapped their 7nm process because it was too expensive. It's to AMD's advantage to not have a foundry.

On the other hand it's not good for the market in the long run when TSMC has a monopoly on 7nm...

Re:Alleged AMD EPYC ‘Rome’ 7nm Based 64 Core Processor Perfo... by uluyol on Sunday September 16, 2018 @01:59AM (#17997518)
There is also Samsung doing 7 nm.