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Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by docker_up on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:10PM (#17990975)
It is mind boggling to me that both Google and Yahoo have thrown away their finance sites. It's utter garbage. And on the phone, Google Finance is even worse. They don't even use the same site or the same behavior, even though I'm pointing to the same URL. It's insane. Why would they completely disregard finance? Are they really not able to make a profitable site using ads?
Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by beaner on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:22PM (#17991071)
What's funny to me is that so many people complain about large tech companies eating up every product category and preventing competition. But when they later kill these products, people complain all the same. Which is it?

Seems like an opportunity for someone else, if it was really being relied on that much.

I suspect it wasn't. The author of the article said he hadn't checked in six years. Six years! And he's complaining that Google threw his work away.

People want to have their cake and eat it, too.

Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by AJ007 on Friday September 14, 2018 @06:00PM (#17991368)
It is definitely an opportunity for someone else. Just take a look at google finance's popularity using Google Trends: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=google%20finance&...

I think Google, Facebook, and especially Yahoo did significant damage to their reputations and brands through how they have disposed of products both for consumers and developers. It is really hard to take anything they put out seriously until that product has been around a long time and is clearly being supported, used, and polished.

Google and Facebook are still large, strong, and growing, but what Yahoo did to all of the companies it acquired really fucked both their investors and customers. One wonders if Google and Facebook will wander down that path when their growth stalls out.

Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by danielaxelsen on Friday September 14, 2018 @06:41PM (#17991679)
I agree ;)

Even before Google Finance was shut down, I've wanted to work on this. Given that Google Finance has largely faded, I think we have an opening for https://bravos.co to enter the market.

Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by munk-a on Friday September 14, 2018 @08:32PM (#17992190)
Uh, this isn't that weird... If google enters a market and kills off all the competition then lowers their investment into their tool and the usability slowly degrades then they're basically just Walmarting that market space.
Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by protomyth on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:32PM (#17991150)
What's funny to me is that so many people complain about large tech companies eating up every product category and preventing competition. But when they later kill these products, people complain all the same. Which is it?

Both. They expanded into an area and killed the competition then killed their product and left a void. See Google Reader for the life cycle.

Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by zapita on Friday September 14, 2018 @06:21PM (#17991529)
Yes, exactly. Those are not contradictory. If anything, it makes it more obvious why unchecked Big Tech expansion into every market, subsidized by their core monopolies, is a bad thing for consumers in the long run.
Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by beaner on Monday September 17, 2018 @12:07AM (#18003135)
And now readers still aren't popular... There is no big replacement that people are using. Google didn't kill the category, it was already dead.
Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by oconnor663 on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:48PM (#17991265)
> Which is it?

It's different people complaining in each case.

Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by taeric on Friday September 14, 2018 @06:31PM (#17991602)
There has to be a name for this. Folks love saying "people complained when I did X, now people complain when I do Y." As if that proves something. Unless it is the same people, irrelevant.

(Not that it is automatically relevant if it is the same people. But I get frustrated with this general game of moral equivalence somehow being a valid talking point.)

Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by prepend on Saturday September 15, 2018 @09:37AM (#17994243)
It is curious to me how people seem to accept certain narrative fallacies like 1) the complainers are the same; 2) if the complainers are the same, there are only two exclusive options in existence that must be chosen.

I work in an org with a lot of regulations and a rent seeking IT group different than development. I’ve heard a lot of people rationalizing decisions using emotion (eg, “they complain if we do, they complain if we don’t [;therefore their experience isn’t important to addres]”

It’s tough to solve and is based, I think, on having your measurement of success be a good story, because objective metrics are not really applicable.

In google’s case they make so much revenue and profit from search the rest of the company just kind of bounces around and doesn’t matter. So projects are run, it seems, off who has a great story. Sure, there’s massive data analysis showing things but those don’t matter. Why did a jillion people using finance used to matter, but not now.

Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by gammateam on Friday September 14, 2018 @10:48PM (#17992691)
people complaining that it will predictably lead to competition dying off and reliance on a product that will be abruptly killed?

and then that exact thing happens?

you're confused?

Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by giarc on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:16PM (#17991026)
When did Yahoo throw out their finance site? https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/
Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by adventured on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:53PM (#17991294)
They didn't. No idea where the parent is coming from on that. It still functions much the same as it has for the last 15 years and still provides real-time quotes, proper financials, news, press releases, charts, etc.
Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by unethical_ban on Friday September 14, 2018 @07:12PM (#17991836)
They did eliminate their API.
Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by docker_up on Saturday September 15, 2018 @11:09AM (#17994544)
I meant it's a shadow of its former self from 5 years ago. It was consistently the best and most useful finance site, over Google Finance, and now the articles are terrible. The news feed for a company used to be great, but somehow it has been turned into something terrible and useless.
Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by yfi on Monday September 17, 2018 @01:45PM (#18008091)
How would you describe the changes to the company news feed that made it terrible and useless?
Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by fspeech on Friday September 14, 2018 @07:34PM (#17991951)
Through Google Spreadsheet you have access to many of the same underlying functions for finance, like quotes, financials etc. I have always kept portfolio tracking through the spreadsheet, which in addition offers more powerful functionalities when it comes to numerical computations.
Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by steakknife on Monday September 17, 2018 @02:32PM (#18008618)
I know you mentioned below that you don't like their current news feed, but for what it's worth, Yahoo Finance is going the opposite direction of Google, upgrading and adding features and integrations, not removing stuff. For example, apropos of the article, Y!Fi not only has the same watchlist functionality that everyone is angry Google removed, but you can now link your live brokerage account for real-time portfolio tracking across their apps/site. If you reach out to them with constructive feedback they are pretty receptive.

(Full disclosure: I work for https://trade.it which provides the aforementioned broker API functionality to Yahoo Finance)

Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by holografix on Saturday September 15, 2018 @05:23AM (#17993626)
And there is Google’s and a lot of the current web’s mistake: relying on ads for everything.

Couldn’t Google have charged a monthly subscription for the service? Oh you wouldn’t pay for it? Then Google made 100% the right choice in killing it.

Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by bitxbit on Saturday September 15, 2018 @12:38AM (#17993012)
It’s because the mobile free alternatives are so much better.
Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by steakknife on Monday September 17, 2018 @02:26PM (#18008551)
Do you have any examples you recommend?
Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by rch on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:15PM (#17991019)
When did Yahoo have their own finance site?

(most of it is provided by a third party, or was when I worked for said provider)

Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by chkdsk on Friday September 14, 2018 @06:25PM (#17991566)
Yahoo finance was the original finance site where your parents used to look up stock quotes for Nokia and Pets.com during the original tech bubble.
Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by astura on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:21PM (#17991061)
Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by shagie on Friday September 14, 2018 @08:50PM (#17992269)
Being a perl/regex person back in the day, I recall having Mastering Regular Expressions as a well thumbed reference book. The author, Jeffrey Friedl ( http://regex.info/blog/jfriedl-links/about ) worked at Yahoo! Finance at the time. It was a most impressive and useful site in its time.
Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by thewizardofaus on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:16PM (#17991023)
Yahoo finance has been around for a very long time!
Re:Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfol... by ChristianBundy on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:16PM (#17991028)