Re:Cycling Is Key to Safer, Healthier, More Vital Cities
by adrianN on Friday September 14, 2018 @11:38AM
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Except for the warm clothes the same is true for cars. Snow must be cleared, you need special tires, you shouldn't drive during a blizzard. It's just that you've normalized those things when it comes to cars.
When the snow is cleared you are generally fine with normal tires on bikes btw, because you can just go a little slower.
Re:Cycling Is Key to Safer, Healthier, More Vital Cities
by weberc2 on Friday September 14, 2018 @12:37PM
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Also you don't need special tires. As the name implies, all-weather tires work just fine. And I can make it through quite a lot more snow in my car than on my bike (the converse is that it's a lot easier to unstick a bike than a car!). Also the risk of commuting in the winter is a lot greater for cyclists than motorists (i.e., if a car loses control and hits you).
Re:Cycling Is Key to Safer, Healthier, More Vital Cities
by skh on Friday September 14, 2018 @11:55AM
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I live in Minnesota which is a cold weather state. We get lots of snow and winters last a long time. I’m not from Minnesota but have lived here for 18 years. I have never changed tires on my car. I will never bike in the winter time. Too many chances to slip in winter while biking. Pockets of ice, areas that aren’t cleared well, etc.
Re:Cycling Is Key to Safer, Healthier, More Vital Cities
by kevin_thibedeau on Friday September 14, 2018 @12:14PM
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Studded tires make riding on slippery roads a non issue. The risk is from drivers sliding into you.
Re:Cycling Is Key to Safer, Healthier, More Vital Cities
by village-idiot on Friday September 14, 2018 @12:37PM
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Proper biking infrastructure would reduce this risk in all weather.
Re:Cycling Is Key to Safer, Healthier, More Vital Cities
by KozmoNau7 on Friday September 14, 2018 @11:38AM
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The same goes for driving (well, driving safely at least). You need winter tires, you need an ice scraper, probably a snow shovel and other gear. You probably also shouldn't be driving around in a blizzard, either.
Come to Copenhagen or Amsterdam. We bike in all kinds of weather, backed up by great public transport.
Re:Cycling Is Key to Safer, Healthier, More Vital Cities
by weberc2 on Friday September 14, 2018 @12:46PM
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You definitely don't need winter tires; all-season tires work just fine. And an ice scraper (or even a shovel) isn't a burden for motorists. Also, winters in Copenhagen are probably quite a lot warmer than many places in the U.S. (the lowest average monthly temperature is barely below freezing!). Quite a different story from Chicago, Detroit, Minneapolis, or Des Moines.
Re:Cycling Is Key to Safer, Healthier, More Vital Cities
by village-idiot on Friday September 14, 2018 @02:21PM
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Yeah, you actually need winter tires. All season tires are garbage.
Re:Cycling Is Key to Safer, Healthier, More Vital Cities
by weberc2 on Friday September 14, 2018 @03:21PM
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I’m guessing you’re not accounting for wear. I can’t tell the difference between my all seasons and winter tires, but the performance gap between summer tires and all seasons (in winter conditions) is enormous.
Re:Cycling Is Key to Safer, Healthier, More Vital Cities
by village-idiot on Friday September 14, 2018 @06:38PM
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Wear matters a ton. Winter tires are usually made of very soft rubber to maintain pliability below freezing. Driving them when it gets warm destroys them quickly.
Re:Cycling Is Key to Safer, Healthier, More Vital Cities
by weberc2 on Friday September 14, 2018 @07:00PM
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I'm not sure if you meant that as a rebuttal or not, but I completely agree. :)
Re:Cycling Is Key to Safer, Healthier, More Vital Cities
by KozmoNau7 on Saturday September 15, 2018 @03:43AM
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Depending on the weather, yes you do need winter tires. All-seasons are a compromise, and the only actually good ones wear out really quickly.
I've scrapers are not a burden to carry in a car, but they do cost money, and require physical effort to use.
You should visit Copenhagen in the winter, and enter a dimension of slush, the freezing/thawing cycles make it extremely unpredictable to ride or drive in. Actual steady freezing temperatures are so much easier to deal with.
Re:Cycling Is Key to Safer, Healthier, More Vital Cities
by germinalphrase on Friday September 14, 2018 @11:54AM
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It hasn’t stopped a lot of us up here in Minneapolis. Other than - possibly - a balaclava, I don’t dress significantly different for winter biking than I do for general winter weather. The effort warms me up quickly.
Re:Cycling Is Key to Safer, Healthier, More Vital Cities
by mjhagen on Friday September 14, 2018 @12:55PM
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No one in Amsterdam has special tires on their cycles during winter and everyone here has a winter coat, it really is not a big deal.
Re:Cycling Is Key to Safer, Healthier, More Vital Cities
by SketchySeaBeast on Friday September 14, 2018 @01:12PM
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Amsterdam the average winter temperature is like 3 degrees Celsius. Where I live it's -10, and it can easily dip into the -20's for weeks and the -30's for days.
Or I could just get in my car with a light jacket and blast the heat. Rain, shine, snow, blizzard, whatever. I'm good.