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Re:Why Is College in America So Expensive? by closeparen on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @03:56AM (#17966365)
Regulating a service and providing it at public expense are completely separate concepts.

Europeans do not have cheap healthcare as a result of price controls on private medical practices (regulation), but as a result of redistribution and subsidy (spending).

Re:Why Is College in America So Expensive? by etiennemarcel on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @05:50AM (#17966930)
At least in France, it's both. The cost for the patient is usually low thanks to the health insurance, but also because of price control. A GP visit is 25 euros by law, covered from 70 to 100% depending on your insurance. Doctors can choose to charge more but then patients need better private insurances to be reimbursed.

You can find the price lists here:

* https://www.ameli.fr/paris/medecin/exercice-liberal/facturat... * https://www.ameli.fr/paris/medecin/exercice-liberal/facturat...

Re:Why Is College in America So Expensive? by madmulita on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @07:14AM (#17967309)
How many visits does it take to get a simple prescription?

We have something similar, I've been appointed consultations only to be asked how I felt.

Re:Why Is College in America So Expensive? by daleco on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @07:48AM (#17967513)
You can get a simple prescription at the first consultation. For what I remember 10yrs ago, to see a specialist, you need to go to you general practitioner first. Then he will decide if you need a referral.

Edit: you can go directly to a specialist or not follow the « health path », you will just get less reimbursed. Some specialist can be seen without referral (gyn, psy...)

Re:Why Is College in America So Expensive? by closeparen on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @12:52PM (#17970701)
If doctors can choose to charge more to willing patients, that doesn't seem to actually be a price control. Perhaps 25 euros is the amount that the insurance system will reimburse?
Re:Why Is College in America So Expensive? by etiennemarcel on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @02:14PM (#17971466)
The French system is fairly complex, it's not single payer. To sum up, for "everyday" health issues the public health insurance reimburses 70%. For grave long-term illnesses, you're covered 100%.

You're supposed to have a private health insurance (it's now mandatory for all employees) that reimburses the remaining 30% and all extra costs. That includes some dental and optical work, but also stuff like single-bed rooms in the hospital. Your additional private insurance also covers doctors charging more than the "official" price.

Re:Why Is College in America So Expensive? by Emma_Goldman on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @05:56AM (#17966947)
No, the per capita cost of healthcare in the US is astronomically greater than Western European countries, including both private and public spend. In the UK the NHS is a socialised service that is free at the point of use. If that's not 'regulation' then I don't know what is.
Re:Why Is College in America So Expensive? by closeparen on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @12:47PM (#17970630)
To regulate an industry is to make rules about how its participants may behave. This worlds away from government participating in the industry directly.

Public housing is a public service; rent control is regulation.

Public transit is a public service; fuel efficiency standards are regulation.

Medicare is a public service; the medical licensing regime is regulation.

Re:Why Is College in America So Expensive? by yawboakye on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @10:39AM (#17969209)
It's not a regulation of a private industry. It's a law on the people to pay for public health. If we still want to call it a regulation then it's a regulation on individuals instead of the health business.