Re:Solid-state battery startup claims breakthrough for elect...
by maxerickson on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @04:29PM
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The galaxy brain take on Tesla is that it is just marketing wrapped around the progress that was already happening in batteries. They really actually are cheaper and have much increased energy density relative to 10 and 20 years ago.
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Re:Solid-state battery startup claims breakthrough for elect...
by Dylan16807 on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @04:47PM
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> They really actually are cheaper and have much increased energy density relative to 10 and 20 years ago.
But have they implemented any of these 'breakthrough' technologies?
Re:Solid-state battery startup claims breakthrough for elect...
by maxerickson on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @05:29PM
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Does lithium-ion itself count? The first practical chemistry was developed in 1979, the first commercial battery was shipped in 1991 and they went pretty mainstream between 2000 and 2005.
That's a long time if you are talking about announcements made today but there's been lots of announcements in between and there is considerably more investment now than 30 years ago.
Re:Solid-state battery startup claims breakthrough for elect...
by Dylan16807 on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @11:15PM
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If we're looking at breakthroughs since 30 years ago, lithium ion definitely counts. But it's pretty much the only example, and there are very severe flaws with lithium ion leaving the space ripe for improvement. Everything since has pretty much been optimization.
Re:Solid-state battery startup claims breakthrough for elect...
by gameswithgo on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @07:14AM
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Compare the GM EV1 which cost a million dollars to a tesla p100D and I would suppose that many breakthroughs were involved.
Re:Solid-state battery startup claims breakthrough for elect...
by Dylan16807 on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @03:28PM
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That's outside of 20 years old and it didn't use lithium ion at all. Lithium ion was great, but the question is about breakthroughs since.
And MSRP was reportedly $34k.