> Did you mean Cook?

You're right, I was thinking of Cook. I would actually be more inclined to agree with calling Jony Ive a visionary when I haven't confused the two of them with each other.

It's really still the same trouble though. It's good that they have Ive to do his piece, but they still need someone to do the separate piece that Jobs used to do.

Yes he did. And it’s funny to see someone repeat an oppinion they’ve obviously just read but didn’t understand the contents of eg “Jobs was a visionary, Cook is a great manager” and then just assume that Ives is Cook because someone mentions him as Apples visionary.