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Re:OxyContin billionaire has patented a drug to wean addicts... by imron on Saturday September 08, 2018 @10:17PM (#17943965)
> He does heroin recreationally and isn't addicted

The time-worn story of how every single addict starts out.

Re:OxyContin billionaire has patented a drug to wean addicts... by Aloha on Sunday September 09, 2018 @01:43AM (#17944546)
Not every person who uses a particular drug recreationally can or will get addicted to it. It depends on brain chemistry and a variety of other factors.
Re:OxyContin billionaire has patented a drug to wean addicts... by CodeWriter23 on Sunday September 09, 2018 @05:56AM (#17945177)
Nope. Do heroin 4 days in a row and you start having withdrawal symptoms. Regardless of any other factors including brain chemistry.
Re:OxyContin billionaire has patented a drug to wean addicts... by girvo on Sunday September 09, 2018 @10:09AM (#17945940)
As far as noticable withdrawals, it takes a lot longer than 4 days for someone who’s new to it. If you’ve ever been an addict to opiates before though, yeah that’s about right.
Re:OxyContin billionaire has patented a drug to wean addicts... by Broken_Hippo on Sunday September 09, 2018 @11:02AM (#17946202)
Most recreational use doesn't constitute such things, though. Unless you have a very different view of recreational use than I do.
Re:OxyContin billionaire has patented a drug to wean addicts... by int_19h on Sunday September 09, 2018 @04:08AM (#17944902)
That's true broadly, but opiates are a bit of a special case, no?
Re:OxyContin billionaire has patented a drug to wean addicts... by Broken_Hippo on Sunday September 09, 2018 @11:00AM (#17946194)
If they were immediately addictive, everyone that got a morphine shot in the hospital would need to seek treatment. It isn't a "one use and you are addicted" or even "occasional (recreational) use will get you addicted". A portion of folks will seek it out more often, but most folks will just seek it out occasionally.

With opiates, the bigger danger is daily or consistent use over a period of time. The period depending on how often you take it and how you are using it and the strength of your dose.

Re:OxyContin billionaire has patented a drug to wean addicts... by Broken_Hippo on Sunday September 09, 2018 @10:58AM (#17946173)
Yes, but it is the same with things like alcohol. Most folks that smoke pot daily don't start out that way either. Most folks that wind up with a coke habit only do it occasionally at first as well. Lots more people do these things in an actual recreational pattern - every so often. Only a portion get addicted because only a portion ever do it that often.

Yet, if someone has an incident with alcohol (for example), they might be required to attend AA meetings even if they aren't a regular drinker. Same with other drugs.

This is true even if heroin withdrawal symptoms start after just a few days. Recreational use generally isn't daily use or two days in a row.