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Re:The US chip industry starts to wake up to new competitive... by lazyjones on Saturday September 08, 2018 @04:05AM (#17940011)
This is hilarious for people who used to boot their OS instantly from ROM in 1985 ... The main culprits here are OS bloat and inefficient boot procedures, not the performance of the storage system.
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Re:The US chip industry starts to wake up to new competitive... by walkingolof on Saturday September 08, 2018 @06:02AM (#17940272)
To be fair, you did not boot into an OS those days, booted into a single threaded REPL with a library, a “slight” difference...
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Re:The US chip industry starts to wake up to new competitive... by nicole_express on Saturday September 08, 2018 @08:24AM (#17940574)
In 1985, the Atari ST came out and that same year supported booting into its (single-tasking) GUI OS from ROM, quite a step up from the BASIC REPLs I assume you're referencing here.
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Re:The US chip industry starts to wake up to new competitive... by Kim_Bruning on Saturday September 08, 2018 @08:43AM (#17940623)
Indeed O:-) You may have had to wait until as late as April 1989 to have a credibly decent GUI and (collective) multi-tasking straight from ROM.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_RISC_OS#RISC_OS_2

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Re:The US chip industry starts to wake up to new competitive... by afarrell on Saturday September 08, 2018 @04:20AM (#17940048)
But as a consumer, I can't control for that. I can read specs on SSD speed.

> OS bloat

Results from tradeoffs against other things and is not going away.

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Re:The US chip industry starts to wake up to new competitive... by panic on Saturday September 08, 2018 @05:36AM (#17940220)
Hardware has been getting faster for decades; somehow software always manages to slow it down. I don't think there's a way to win this race without either changing the tradeoffs or building a software culture that actually cares about performance.
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Re:The US chip industry starts to wake up to new competitive... by CarolineW on Saturday September 08, 2018 @06:27AM (#17940328)
As the quotation goes: "What Andy giveth, Bill taketh away."
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Re:The US chip industry starts to wake up to new competitive... by lazyjones on Saturday September 08, 2018 @05:15AM (#17940169)
> But as a consumer, I can't control for that. I can read specs on SSD speed

You have options. I used to have a Windows PC for all tasks (with these annoying issues) and have since moved to an iPad for most tasks, a PS4 for games and a MacBook for programming (which I admittedly don‘t do much anymore). SSD speed is not relevant anymore, booting has been replaced by opening/picking up/starting from hibernation.

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Re:The US chip industry starts to wake up to new competitive... by gbil on Saturday September 08, 2018 @08:16AM (#17940554)
What stops you putting your xOS PC in standy/hibernation ? I believe you compare different situations/needs
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