Re:North Korean Spy to Be Charged in Sony Pictures Hacking
by jessaustin on Thursday September 06, 2018 @04:02PM
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Can we get an estimate of how much money was stolen/earned/misplaced/whatever in this hack?
Re:North Korean Spy to Be Charged in Sony Pictures Hacking
by openasocket on Thursday September 06, 2018 @04:23PM
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In the Sony hack? None. But many of the Lazarus group's other attacks have resulted in getting significant amounts of money. There was the theft with the Bangladesh bank a few years ago, where they got away with around $100M US. There were some other, smaller incidents involving banks in Vietnam and Taiwan. And the Lazarus group is believed to be behind the WannaCry randsomware, idk how much they got from that.
Re:North Korean Spy to Be Charged in Sony Pictures Hacking
by jessaustin on Thursday September 06, 2018 @05:33PM
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This undercuts either the APT classification or the identification of the APT with DPRK. It's not as though Sony doesn't have any money; a group that steals money would have stolen some. In that case there would have been some sort of credible trail to follow.
Actually the whole "we don't like movies about Dear Leader" supposed motivation is only superficially reasonable. From the leaked email it's clear that this was a chaotic capricious organization that wouldn't have hesitated to fire embittered IT (or simply IT-aware) staff, who would then have been well-placed to do everything that was done to Sony. (I especially liked the unencrypted Word docs they had of nothing but hundreds of passwords. Passwords don't belong in Word docs!) "Guardians of Peace" had a special hatred for Sony execs, while e.g. Rogen and Franco were afterthoughts.
Re:North Korean Spy to Be Charged in Sony Pictures Hacking
by openasocket on Thursday September 06, 2018 @06:52PM
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Some of their attacks involve stealing money, but not all of them. Regardless, that argument is circumstantial at best. Look at the report https://www.operationblockbuster.com/wp-content/uploads/2016... . There was re-use of malware, C&C infrastructure, and RSA certificates, that is hard evidence.
There's also the possibility that the APT group is partially or completely composed of foreigners hired to engage in these attacks on behalf of the DPRK. I know one of the people on Operation Blockbuster believed that this was "contracted out" to some clandestine group. This would explain the attackers being multi-lingual. It would also explain why many of their attacks focus on financial institutions and theft. This focus has been proposed as a way for the DPRK to get international currency to make purchases and evade sanctions, but it would also make sense for a group that is in it for the money.