A new kind of labor movement in Silicon Valley?

Re:A new kind of labor movement in Silicon Valley? by losteric on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @02:49PM (#17911725)

I think AI drones make us more willing to kill indiscriminately. When our people are also at risk, we pay more attention to whether there is sufficient information to safely operate with minimal casualties on either side. Drones invite "spray-and-pray" warfare that breeds further aggression.

They definitely have value, drones would have been great at D-Day, but realistically considering human behavior... I suspect these "discriminate" weapons will result in a net increase of collateral damage.

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Re:A new kind of labor movement in Silicon Valley? by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @04:05PM (#17912337)

I'm not sure that I buy your first paragraph. When our people are also at risk, there is more incentive to shoot first rather than risk being shot. When our people are not at risk, we can take the time to be sure, because our downside is smaller.

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Re:A new kind of labor movement in Silicon Valley? by yourbandsucks on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @03:15PM (#17911954)

Nobody's talking about AI drones, or anything close to that.

The proposal was better image recognition algos for surveillance drones. https://dod.defense.gov/News/Article/Article/1254719/project...

Let's take a step down the slippery slope and assume that in the future it was repurposed for manually triggered weapons drones. Ever see a story about how the US drone-bombed a wedding or a goat farmer? Maybe better (or any) image recognition could have saved innocent lives.

It's not that clear cut.

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Re:A new kind of labor movement in Silicon Valley? by losteric on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @03:49PM (#17912220)

You aren't thinking about AI drones, other people are. Project Maven was a first step towards securing broader DoD contracts. Pretending drones were not part of the picture is either naive or disingenuous.

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Re:A new kind of labor movement in Silicon Valley? by yourbandsucks on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @05:50PM (#17913123)

You can't do any better than slippery slope? Who's being disengenuous?

There are several rubicons between here and AI killing machines. Why draw this particular line? Why not just halt all AI research?

If I said that banning bump stocks was "basically gun confiscation" or that implementing universal healthcare was "basically the great leap forward", would you be convinced?

I'm really trying to understand your argument here, please help me out.

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