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Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by Mtntk on Monday September 03, 2018 @06:40AM (#17901739)
I would add dress code to this list.

"We have smart casual dress code in this software department. So you can't wear shorts event if its 40 degrees celsius. Oh and shirt is mandatory"

Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by sonnyblarney on Monday September 03, 2018 @07:36AM (#17901969)
"Oh and shirt is mandatory"

So wait, coding without a shirt on is how a thing?

My god man.

If there is air conditioning, slacks shouldn't be a problem though shorts aren't extraordinarily unsuitable.

You can wear a shirt man.

Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by retsibsi on Monday September 03, 2018 @07:45AM (#17901999)
I think the contrast is shirt vs. t-shirt, rather than shirt vs. bare chest.
Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by jamestimmins on Monday September 03, 2018 @07:50AM (#17902031)
In some countries a "shirt" means specifically a button-down. In the same way that "slacks" means long pants. So this likely just means that a button-down is required rather than a t-shirt.
Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by chrisdhoover on Monday September 03, 2018 @08:49PM (#17905821)
A button down shirt is one where the collar is buttoned to the yoke. I think you mean a button up shirt, one that has a placket and buttons in the front versus a pull over or t-shirt.
Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by jamestimmins on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @04:39PM (#17912572)
Oh fascinating, I had no idea they had different meanings!
Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by EliRivers on Monday September 03, 2018 @06:53AM (#17901782)
We had a chap who wore leather, except sometimes a T-Shirt expressing quite harshly an opinion about a globally recognised major religious figure from antiquity.

I was glad to see a dress code come in.

Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by KozmoNau7 on Monday September 03, 2018 @07:13AM (#17901865)
I feel absolutely blessed that I can wear camo cargo shorts and metal band shirts at work.

Obviously I don't wear any of the graphic or gory ones, or from bands with obviously offensive names, and I will choose a nice polo shirt if I know I'm going to be having meetings people from other parts of the organization, especially if they're higher up in the hierarchy.

That said, the best head of development we ever had would wear leather pants, ass-kicking boots, rivet belts and band shirts, and he had a Mongol warrior-style beard and hairstyle. He also consistently got the very best reviews and the best results out of his teams.

Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by philpem on Monday September 03, 2018 @08:11AM (#17902118)
A literal Rockstar head of development. Wow. :)
Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by bartread on Monday September 03, 2018 @07:29AM (#17901934)
I think it's possible to deal with offensive (or otherwise inappropriate) clothing on a case by case basis without the need to bring in a smart dress code. Sometimes people implement policies as a way of avoiding awkward conversations but, to me at any rate, part of being a good manager and leader is measured by your ability and willingness to treat your staff like human beings and have those awkward conversations when it's necessary.
Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by EliRivers on Monday September 03, 2018 @12:15PM (#17903374)
The dress code that came in was effectively "Do not have the word 'Cunt' written in four inch high letters on your clothing".
Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by bartread on Wednesday September 05, 2018 @01:58PM (#17920407)
Amazing. I'm going to make it my mission in life to get exactly that wording into the HR handbook where I work now.
Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by sornaensis on Monday September 03, 2018 @06:58AM (#17901797)
Crass T-shirts are certainly one thing, but what is wrong with leather..?
Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by bartread on Monday September 03, 2018 @07:32AM (#17901947)
I was wondering that as well. Exactly what sort of leather garments are we talking about here?
Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by EliRivers on Monday September 03, 2018 @12:09PM (#17903328)
They were leather trousers, as I recall. Laced up at the sides; not sure if they were permanently joined at the top, or if they were just a front and a back that one had to completely tie together.

Nobody had a problem with the leather (although a peekaboo stripe of visible leg down the outside of each, covered in a criss cross of something that looked like shoelace was sometimes a surprise). That was just flavour detail.

Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by bartread on Wednesday September 05, 2018 @01:57PM (#17920404)
Yeah, OK: not loving the lace-up aspect.
Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by sureaboutthis on Monday September 03, 2018 @06:56AM (#17901792)
When I worked in the medical field, doctors would occasionally visit unannounced. We were required to wear a shirt and tie, with an available jacket, at all times.
Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by arethuza on Monday September 03, 2018 @07:50AM (#17902030)
I remember my brother in law, who worked in very senior position in a large UK financial institution that "holidays are when you can go into the office and take your suit jacket off".

I don't even own a suit :-)

Edit: A few years back I turned down a second interview at the same organisation after they insisted I turn up "in standard business attire" - i.e. a suit.

Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by EliRivers on Monday September 03, 2018 @12:16PM (#17903379)
"holidays are when you can go into the office and take your suit jacket off"

Last time I went on holiday, I took a tailored suit and dressed smarter than I do at work. Three-piece suit (typically I wore just the waistcoat; done right, that looks smarter than the jacket), tailored shirt to go with it.

When it's your own choice to look sharp, it's a whole different game.

Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by gsich on Monday September 03, 2018 @07:31AM (#17901939)
A religion user should be able to handle that.
Re:Dumb Rules That Make Your Best People Want to Quit (2017) by EliRivers on Monday September 03, 2018 @12:11PM (#17903336)
I'm not at all religious, but when I found myself reading "Jesus is a cunt" every time I happened to look at him, it did irk me. I think it would have not mattered what specific name was there, emblazoned in four inch high letters on his clothes.