Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly

Re:Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly by SideburnsOfDoom on Sunday September 02, 2018 @09:59AM (#17897015)

> "The batteries are no good in really cold climates"

If that's true of EVs (I have no idea, but it is/was true of the batteries in digital cameras), then it's very odd that EVs are so popular in Norway.

Incentives can only get you so far if the product doesn't work well in local conditions.

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Re:Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly by Tuna-Fish on Sunday September 02, 2018 @11:08AM (#17897232)

Most of Norway is much warmer than you'd think. The Gulf Stream hits Norway head on, making it much warmer than similar latitudes on the other side of the Atlantic. In Oslo, temperatures very rarely go below -10C.

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Re:Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly by SideburnsOfDoom on Monday September 03, 2018 @03:23AM (#17901022)

> In Oslo, temperatures very rarely go below -10C. ... warmer than you'd think

I was spotting Teslas in Oslo in mid 2018, and it was +28C.

But seriously, -10C on a winter night is what I expected, and is cold enough to seriously affect camera batteries.

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Re:Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly by Tuna-Fish on Monday September 03, 2018 @02:52PM (#17904257)

-10C is something that is still manageable. The current crop of electric cars start to have real problems below -30C.

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Re:Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly by i80and on Sunday September 02, 2018 @10:51AM (#17897178)

Norway is not especially cold. Neither Trondheim nor Oslo have average January lows below +20°F.

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Re:Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly by rhino369 on Sunday September 02, 2018 @10:44AM (#17897151)

Norway has extreme incentives. EV’s are functional in northern climates, they have lower range.

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Re:Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly by josteink on Sunday September 02, 2018 @01:39PM (#17897809)

> Norway has extreme incentives

To expand on that, electric cars in Norway has so extreme incentives...

That price-wise Tesla Model S is not competing with Ferrari, Lambourghini, BMW M3, Mercedes Amg’s or anything like that.

It’s competing with a mid range Audi A4.

Basically, regular petrol cars are so heavily taxed that EVs (which are exempt from all these taxes), can be a luxury car in any country on earth and still come out relatively cheap in Norway.

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Re:Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly by labster on Sunday September 02, 2018 @01:47PM (#17897837)

So, Norway actually makes car buyers pay for externalities of hydrocarbon consumption?

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