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Re:Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a deve... by MaxLeiter on Sunday September 02, 2018 @05:57AM (#17896395)
If you’re crashing once a week you’re definitely doing something incorrect on your end. Apple may have poor QA, but there’s no way it’s _that_ poor.
Re:Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a deve... by joefarish on Sunday September 02, 2018 @06:39AM (#17896481)
I don't see how you can blame a user for repeated kernel panic issues.
Re:Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a deve... by xfer on Sunday September 02, 2018 @07:38AM (#17896629)
Apple fan logic in a nut-shell.
Re:Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a deve... by NullPrefix on Sunday September 02, 2018 @07:19AM (#17896594)
You are user spacing it wrong.
Re:Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a deve... by haasisnoah on Sunday September 02, 2018 @11:34AM (#17897321)
Isn't the point of a user space to protect the kernel and keep the OS from crashing?
Re:Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a deve... by reitanqild on Sunday September 02, 2018 @03:57PM (#17898339)
No.

What userspace is is where you work happens. It has no universal obligation to protect the kernel.

You could possibly say that the point of working in userspace (instead of in kernel space) is to protect the kernel.

Re:Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a deve... by reitanqild on Monday September 03, 2018 @11:10AM (#17902955)
Seems I'm either wrong or I'm punished for being rude.

In the latter case, sorry. I honestly agree I should have caught that.

In the first case my thought process goes as follows (hoping someone knowledgeable will correct me):

- user space may very well contain hostile processes (trojans, rootkits, - even intentionally in the case where a user inspects malware in some kind of container or chroot environment.

- user space may contain mechanisms that attempts to protect the kernel, but a typical kernel (linux, and I guess most other free kernels) cannot rely on it.

- I tried searching for userspace protect kernel and the closest thing I found was the act of separating userspace from kernel space protects the kernel which is what I tried to point out in my post above.

Re:Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a deve... by FabHK on Sunday September 02, 2018 @11:32AM (#17897313)
I had very frequent cornel panics on my MBP, but running diagnostics (hold “D” during startup) revealed a hardware issue. After the Apple shop replaced the motherboard, the crashes are gone.
Re:Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a deve... by badestrand on Sunday September 02, 2018 @08:29AM (#17896750)
My MacBook Air is also crashing weekly and I don't even do anything demanding (no VMs or video editing or the like).