Re:Asian-American Students Suing Harvard Over Admissions Win...
by InfiniteBeing on Friday August 31, 2018 @12:44AM
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White is still very synthesized as European Americans generally have mixed ancestral origins.
I don't foresee Asians being seen as white people. Their origins are much different than the Irish, Italian and even Jewish cases.
Perhaps certain people such as yourself would do so as an adjustment to allow you to continue viewing through your same prism rather than getting a new prism.
Re:Asian-American Students Suing Harvard Over Admissions Win...
by tptacek on Friday August 31, 2018 @01:12AM
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People such as myself and everyone who's written a scholarly article or magazine essays about when and how Asians have/will become "white"? Because, like I said, this isn't my idea.
Re:Asian-American Students Suing Harvard Over Admissions Win...
by InfiniteBeing on Saturday September 01, 2018 @07:46PM
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I never claimed it was your idea. It's just people who think like this want to claim that every successful non-white group of people are white to continue viewing reality through a faulty prism.
Re:Asian-American Students Suing Harvard Over Admissions Win...
by tptacek on Monday September 03, 2018 @10:27AM
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That depends on what you think the definition of "white" is. The one you prefer --- "of various European origin" --- is not the only one, and is in fact ahistorical: several European ethnicities were not "white" until relatively recently.
I think people need to come to grips with the fact that there are definitions (obviously not the only ones but not the least important ones either) of "white" and "non-white" that boil down to "human" and "subhuman". That's not a thing I'm making up as message board rhetoric; it's a simple fact.
A useful thing to keep in mind is that "black", as in "African American", actually is a sort of synthesized ethnicity (their original cultures having been stripped from them in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade)... but "white" is not. There are Irish people and there are Slavic people and there are Sicilian people, and their cultures are not in fact all that similar. "White" just means what it needs to mean.
All you need to add to your mental model of "white" and "black" to fit low Asian American incarceration into it is the idea that Asians will soon attain "honorary white" status. That's not a message board concept; the transition of Asians from "model minority" to "white people" is much discussed in the real world as well.