San Francisco Denies Scooter Permits for Bird, Lime, Uber and Lyft

Re:San Francisco Denies Scooter Permits for Bird, Lime, Uber... by s0rce on Thursday August 30, 2018 @11:22PM (#17882673)

In all cases, no. In this case, yes. Improving the sad state of transportation options in the bay area is beneficial to all residents. Two wrongs don't make a right. Fine them for breaking the rules and then allow them to continue. Don't give their business to a competitor in an act of revenge against their breaking the rules.

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Re:San Francisco Denies Scooter Permits for Bird, Lime, Uber... by noobermin on Thursday August 30, 2018 @11:44PM (#17882783)

You're phrasing it as if it's "revenge" rather than the city looking out for its citizen's best interests. If this company has been willing to flaunt the rules, who's to say it won't again? That isn't "revenge," it seems more like using common sense.

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Re:San Francisco Denies Scooter Permits for Bird, Lime, Uber... by s0rce on Thursday August 30, 2018 @11:59PM (#17882856)

Then I vote to give them a 2nd chance and see how it goes. Its easy to pull their permit in the future if needed.

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Re:San Francisco Denies Scooter Permits for Bird, Lime, Uber... by TeMPOraL on Friday August 31, 2018 @05:54AM (#17884246)

Why? It's not like they've made a mistake. They intentionally broke the law; they've displayed propensity for unlawful behaviour. The reasonable thing to do is to give their business to parties who did not, so far, show the same propensity.

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Re:San Francisco Denies Scooter Permits for Bird, Lime, Uber... by s0rce on Friday August 31, 2018 @01:45PM (#17887494)

So did lyft and uber initially, those services are immeasurably better than the previous taxis (although their treatment of employees may be worse but I haven't seen much evidence taxi drivers get better conditions/benefits).

In then end I guess I don't care because I truly believe the rules are backwards and protecting cars above any useful alternatives that may represent a useful future for green sustainable urban transportation.

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Re:San Francisco Denies Scooter Permits for Bird, Lime, Uber... by masonic on Friday August 31, 2018 @01:36AM (#17883201)

s/flaunt/flout

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Re:San Francisco Denies Scooter Permits for Bird, Lime, Uber... by noobermin on Friday August 31, 2018 @02:14AM (#17883318)

Thank you, but alas, two hours have passed.

I should also say, look below[0]. Bird's application was terrible . Scoot on the other hand set an example for a great application to a government body for a resource of some kind, I can compare it to my experience for writing grants.

I can imagine some class on professional writing contrasting these very two applications as examples of what not to do and what to do when applying for something from a government. After scanning both, I'm pretty much convinced the city chose the applications based on the quality and substance behind each application, not based on anything else.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17882982

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