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Re:Emails while commuting 'should count as work' by vesak on Thursday August 30, 2018 @01:18PM (#17878576)
If your employer tracks you by the hour, then of course email while commuting is work. Also thinking about a design while taking a shower in the evening is work. Also waking up in the middle of the night and not being able to fall asleep because work issues are bothering you is work.

Why employers (in the knowledge business at least) track people by the hour is beyond my understanding.

Re:Emails while commuting 'should count as work' by phillc73 on Thursday August 30, 2018 @04:27PM (#17880433)
> Why employers (in the knowledge business at least) track people by the hour is beyond my understanding

Because in some countries it is a legal requirement. Where I work, in Austria, there is currently a legal limit of 10 working hours per day and a total of 50 hours per week, except in exceptional circumstances. Therefore, all employees must log their working hours.

I found the process odd when I first moved here. However, over time I have come to appreciate the advantages. I have absolutely no pressure from my employer to work excessive overtime and there is no default culture of long working hours. After 14:00 on Fridays, every week, the office is 90% empty.

I hope this small example helps you to understand why employers in some locations have to track people by the hour.

Re:Emails while commuting 'should count as work' by cco on Thursday August 30, 2018 @09:26PM (#17882253)
Are you salaried or are you paid per hour?
Re:Emails while commuting 'should count as work' by phillc73 on Friday August 31, 2018 @02:16AM (#17883331)
Salaried
Re:Emails while commuting 'should count as work' by yacse on Thursday August 30, 2018 @02:41PM (#17879491)
From an employers point of view, tracking hours does not make sense. At least as long as we are talking about creative work, where people tend to stay longer than they would be required to, without even noticing how much time they were working.

At least in Germany, working unions are fighting against not counting working hours, because it is better for the employees and is also a saftey net against related health issues. Without counting, legal rules are not enforceable and people may even work on weekends without any compensation. This also leads to the fact that managers start to expect those extra hours from everyone, and consequently see it as an lack of motivation or dedication not doing them.

Re:Emails while commuting 'should count as work' by Spooky23 on Thursday August 30, 2018 @05:27PM (#17880939)
I worked as a salaried government employee for a long time. Time reporting is a key part of our business, as without it you cannot spend appropriately.

Attorneys do the same thing. It’s no big deal.

Re:Emails while commuting 'should count as work' by noja on Thursday August 30, 2018 @02:29PM (#17879344)
Why is it not work, if your employer doesn't track you by the hour?
Re:Emails while commuting 'should count as work' by vesak on Friday August 31, 2018 @02:45AM (#17883445)
I mean, of course it is, but if your salary is monthly-based then it's not such a big deal then. That of course implies that you can have 5 hour weeks when your time is not required as much, and get paid the same.