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Re:We Spent $3.3M Buying Out Investors: Why and How We Did It by sushid on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @04:22PM (#17871597)
How are you going to cash that out? Do you want to hold onto a lifestyle company shares when there's no potential liquidity event in discussion?

I'm not going to exercise my options in that situation and you'd be crazy to pay taxes on this year after year.

Re:We Spent $3.3M Buying Out Investors: Why and How We Did It by tptacek on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @04:28PM (#17871669)
Close-held profitable companies make their shares liquid by buying them back or by distributing dividends (as "profit sharing").

Remember: to a first approximation virtually all startup equity from all startups is illiquid.

Re:We Spent $3.3M Buying Out Investors: Why and How We Did It by icelancer on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @08:33PM (#17873252)
>> Close-held profitable companies make their shares liquid by buying them back or by distributing dividends (as "profit sharing").

Yes, this is exactly what we do with our equity and our employees.

It is ridiculous around Hacker News that this idea has been completely lost and almost everyone focuses on RSUs and unicorn valuations and longshots, rather than simply... I don't know, making a business that very calmly makes a few million dollars per year with double digit growth rather than insanity.

Re:We Spent $3.3M Buying Out Investors: Why and How We Did It by scarface74 on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @09:01PM (#17873368)
It’s as if the idea of working for a company that’s profitable, pays market rates, and may pay a bonus to it’s employees out of its profits is blasphemous....
Re:We Spent $3.3M Buying Out Investors: Why and How We Did It by mcny on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @05:47PM (#17872364)
How do stock buybacks work (especially in a private company)? Do I as a shareholder access to all the information that the company does?

Not trying to sound smart but wouldn't a market with only one buyer mean they will pay the least possible amount?

I'm not trying to trash talk buffer. Just wanted to see if there's another angle to this.

Re:We Spent $3.3M Buying Out Investors: Why and How We Did It by icelancer on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @08:36PM (#17873265)
One way it can be done:

We issue equity internally, not options. We hold right of first refusal and have independent appraisals of value of the business done, so when you leave, we have the right to purchase the equity back at the last appraised value of the company. Additionally, we also pay dividends (impacted by equity) and profit sharing (not impacted by equity but rather a percentage of salary) to our employees.

These things are what "lifestyle businesses" do, or what basically everyone outside of SV and indoctrinated MBA programs call... businesses.

Re:We Spent $3.3M Buying Out Investors: Why and How We Did It by tptacek on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @06:21PM (#17872578)
You should talk to someone who works at Bloomberg. Bloomberg is a gigantic private tech company with an internal exchange where vested equity can be bought and sold among employees and the company.
Re:We Spent $3.3M Buying Out Investors: Why and How We Did It by puranjay on Thursday August 30, 2018 @04:18AM (#17874926)
Buffer's current salaries:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l3bXAv8JE5RB9siMq36-...

Personally, I think the salaries are more than reasonable. A senior engineer with a $175k compensation seems fair enough.