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Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by skrebbel on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @03:53AM (#17866510)
> it gets basically everything right.

Almost everything :) It says that there needs to be a separated, protected bike lane on every road that has a maximum speed over 30 km/h. This is not true (and pretty infeasible, too). The vast majority of average boring roads in residential areas have a 50 km/h maximum speed and no separated bike lanes (and often, if the road is small/quiet enough, not a marked bike lane at all). Most countryside roads have a 80 km/h maximum speed and no bike lanes.

I bet some details were left out that accidentally made it incorrect. I can imagine that there's some law/guideline going on that if a road is particularly busy, then it needs to be either max 30 kph or have separated bike lanes. But most suburban roads or countryside aren't particularly busy.

Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by Freak_NL on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @05:05AM (#17866829)
> The vast majority of average boring roads in residential areas have a 50 km/h maximum speed […]

Look closely though, a lot has changed in the last decade. Most of the residential streets are now 30 km/h, with only the larger arterial thoroughfares (which do have tend to have separate cycling lanes) and roads in industrial areas left at 50 km/h.

> Most countryside roads have a 80 km/h maximum speed and no bike lanes.

A lot of those remaining roads that don't have a separate cycling lane have been turned into 60 km/h roads.

Wherever in our country do you live that this is not the case?