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Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by Symbiote on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @06:28PM (#17863507)
I would have loved that kind of independence at age 12, but with the fear of traffic, paedophiles, kidnappers and whatever, I wasn't even allowed to walk to the end of the road unsupervised.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by ams6110 on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @07:32PM (#17863877)
That's too bad. When I was 12 (late 1970s, Midwest US) I rode my bike all over the place. No mobile phone either. I'm sure there were as many pedophiles and kidnappers then as now, but I never encountered any. I think the risk of a totally random stranger doing anything is very overblown. And traffic was certainly less aware of bikes. You learned to pay attention to cars.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by __d on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @10:09PM (#17864823)
When I was 12 (late 70s, Australia) I rode my bike all over the place. Rode to and from school, about 25 minutes each way. And through the forest at the edge of town -- we'd disappear for hours there, riding as far as the next town (1 hour downhill :-)

We knew where the dodgy guy hung out near the public toilets in the park, and avoided him (the teacher at school was a different matter).

I think ... people were less alienated from society then. It seems different now.

Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @05:58AM (#17867024)
There's been a few high profile cases of e.g. the van luring kids with puppies or the abduction and rape from the street, but those are edge cases - most cases of pedophiles are from e.g. teachers and family. People you trust and drop your guard around. Not "stranger danger".
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by kalleboo on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @12:55AM (#17865761)
When and where was this? Just curious. In the early 90's in the US at age 8-9 I was allowed to ride all around the neighborhood and to school, as long as I was with a friend and not alone. We moved to Europe in 1995 and by then most people had stopped trick-or-treating in the neighborhood due to the TV news scares of razor blades in apples and whatnot, it seemed like the public trust had hit rock bottom.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by Symbiote on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @07:51AM (#17867479)
UK, 1998.

My parents were very unusual, to the point that my friends' parents would lie to them to cover for me, but the practicalities meant I still couldn't do much of what they did. I didn't own a useful bike, didn't have money for the bus etc.

Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by magduf on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @01:04PM (#17869847)
Today, in the US, it's flatly illegal for kids under the age of 12 to be unsupervised in public in many states, including Virginia.

It wasn't like this here when I was growing up.