Re:Insured, but Still Owing $109K for a Heart Attack
by lotsofpulp on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @01:16PM
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Any insurance policy will have clearly stated the difference between out of network and in network benefits.
Re:Insured, but Still Owing $109K for a Heart Attack
by chrisbennet on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @03:14PM
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But you can't always pick your providers. Example: You go to emergency room that is in-network. A month later you get the bill for the doctors that treated you - who aren't in-network.
"A new study that looked at more than 2 million emergency department visits found that more than 1 in 5 patients who went to ERs within their health-insurance networks ended up being treated by an "out-of-network" doctor — and thus exposed to additional charges not covered by their insurance plan." https://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/16/many-get-hit-with-surprise-o...
Re:Insured, but Still Owing $109K for a Heart Attack
by InclinedPlane on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @01:27PM
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You think someone who is staring at bankruptcy is going to say to themselves "I know what I'll do, I'll spend thousands of dollars I don't have on a lawyer to solve this problem for other people in 5 years"?
Re:Insured, but Still Owing $109K for a Heart Attack
by Scarblac on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @01:34PM
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You're right, that's unrealistic. In fact this sort of thing is why government was invented.
Re:Insured, but Still Owing $109K for a Heart Attack
by int_19h on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @05:53PM
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You need a government that is responsible to its citizens. We don't have that - we have a government that is responsible to its biggest donors. The more some company or some industry can abuse the market to extract insane profits, the more they can lobby the legislatures to cover their ass and secure their business model.
And it's not just health insurance. Case in point: we have companies writing tax accounting software lobbying against simplification of tax code. And it works!
https://www.vox.com/2016/3/29/11320386/turbotax-boycott-lobb...
Re:Insured, but Still Owing $109K for a Heart Attack
by Scarblac on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @05:17AM
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I know, at least at federal level the US isn't a democracy anymore, it's been taken over by corruption entirely. Until that is changed the problems for normal people like the one described in the post will only get worse.
Re:Insured, but Still Owing $109K for a Heart Attack
by arcticbull on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @02:20PM
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But muh freedom
Re:Insured, but Still Owing $109K for a Heart Attack
by noelsusman on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @07:20PM
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Because that lawsuit would get thrown out.
Re:Insured, but Still Owing $109K for a Heart Attack
by FactolSarin on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @01:08PM
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Hahahahahaha. No. The American legal system is so stacked in favor of insurance companies it's ridiculous.
Re:Insured, but Still Owing $109K for a Heart Attack
by refurb on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @01:12PM
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This isn’t true at all. Insurance is heavily regulated. If you can’t resolve an issue with your insurance, most states have arbitration committee that will smack down insurance companies pretty quickly.
Re:Insured, but Still Owing $109K for a Heart Attack
by acomar on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @01:47PM
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Crucially, that's only true if you have the money and time to fight. For the people hurt worst by the system, they lack some or all of: knowledge that they can fight it, money with which to fight it (or again, knowledge that a lawyer will take it pro bono), and the time with which to fight it and not work one or more jobs. I know people on this forum are relatively well off, but everyone reading this should try to put themselves in the shoes of someone working multiple jobs, trying to take care of a sick family member, and facing predatory companies trying to bilk them for all they're worth.
That the government will protect you, in theory, is not the same thing as in practice.
Re:Insured, but Still Owing $109K for a Heart Attack
by bobmarley1 on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @02:13PM
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Lolwat the entire purpose of Arbitration is to give a massive advantage to corporations.
I realize it's a complex subject, but at the end of the day, the insurance companies advertise and sell: insurance.