Re:T-Mobile Database Breach Exposes 2M Customers' Data
by rm999 on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @12:39PM
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T-mobile is horrible with security. They have this service called Digits, which lets users access their phone number from other devices. The problem is, this subverts the security model a lot of the American internet ecosystem is built on, i.e. your phone number will be secure online. Someone got into my t-mobile account and enabled Digits, then had free-reign on my gmail, texts, paypal, etc (I don't use the strongest passwords, but always keep 2-factor authentication on important services like these). Every time I got hacked I'd spend a couple hours of trying to figure out how, and the T-mobile agents would always claim no one accessed my number. Finally, the third time, I escalated up the security chain within T-mobile and they figured out the issue.
Re:T-Mobile Database Breach Exposes 2M Customers' Data
by MrEfficiency on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @12:45PM
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Not to mention digits SUCKS.
My wife used this for her business since it was free at the time. It cost her literally thousands of dollars of missed/unconnected calls and dozens of hours of customer service.
Re:T-Mobile Database Breach Exposes 2M Customers' Data
by r00fus on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @12:47AM
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Is there any way to turn off Digits?
Re:T-Mobile Database Breach Exposes 2M Customers' Data
by kuwze on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @11:01AM
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Re:T-Mobile Database Breach Exposes 2M Customers' Data
by hippich on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @11:02AM
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Similar thing happened to me about a year ago. The creepiest part was - it happened while I was in the international flight and my gmail WAS on sms "two factory" authentication... Since then everywhere i can I used OTP, but some sites fallback to use your phone number if you can't provide OTP password... So I have to enter some completely invalid phone number there to make it impossible.
Re:T-Mobile Database Breach Exposes 2M Customers' Data
by acomar on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @11:09AM
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There are a few sites that won't accept this and won't even accept a Google Voice/VOIP number because they do some kind of check. Very frustrating.
Re:T-Mobile Database Breach Exposes 2M Customers' Data
by r00fus on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @12:49AM
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Can you provide a number (i.e. POTS) that has no SMS capability?
Re:T-Mobile Database Breach Exposes 2M Customers' Data
by gowld on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @11:31AM
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What's the point of having a lock (OTP) if the lock is removed upon an attacker's request?
Re:T-Mobile Database Breach Exposes 2M Customers' Data
by inetknght on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @11:49AM
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SMS is not two factor authentication, no matter what ISPs or websites tell you.
Re:T-Mobile Database Breach Exposes 2M Customers' Data
by chayesfss on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @11:53AM
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Actually it is a form of 2fa, might not be one you like but itβs better than 1fa or kba which is double single factor
Re:T-Mobile Database Breach Exposes 2M Customers' Data
by weej on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @12:09PM
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Agreed. Although poor security with easy hijacking, it's still a form of 2FA. Even NIST doesn't recommend it as a factor to use for authentication.
Re:T-Mobile Database Breach Exposes 2M Customers' Data
by hb3b on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @11:34AM
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That's bad but at least they checked. Apple recently swapped out a phone for me at the store. The genius called Sprint and they activated the new phone on my Dad's line without asking me for ID or my account code.
Imagine if this were to happen to a journalist or politician. The stakes are quite high.
Re:T-Mobile Database Breach Exposes 2M Customers' Data
by s73v3r_ on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @12:19PM
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Honestly, I think one of the best things to happen for the rest of us is for a prominent Senator to have this happen to them. Then hopefully we'd get some legislation holding these companies responsible when they do that.
I use Google Auth OTP for all the accounts that I can, and as far as I can tell nothing was breached or stolen, but I wouldn't rely on your cell phone or number for anything whatsoever, it's way too easy to socially engineer, or have some easily corruptible retail employee steal from you.