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Re:The Vanishing Idealism of Burning Man by Chathamization on Thursday August 23, 2018 @05:08PM (#17830720)
> Every year there are articles about how Burning Man has 'lost' or is 'done'.

Yeah, I wonder what the earliest article about that is. I did a brief search for the decline of Burning Man found a Wired article from 1997[1] (and of course numerous people talking about the decline later, like this blog post from 2004[2]).

It reminds me of all those "I'm 13, is it too late for me to start learning programming/body building/learning the guitar/studying Japanese/etc." type posts. If you don't do something you're interested in because you think its too late, there's a good chance that a decade later you'll be kicking yourself for not having done it.

[1] https://www.wired.com/1997/07/burning-man-burnout/ [2] https://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=7447

Re:The Vanishing Idealism of Burning Man by gascan on Thursday August 23, 2018 @06:13PM (#17831084)
If you don't do something you're interested in because you think its too late...

A proverb I remind myself of regularly:

The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.

Including the times when I look out my window and wish my sapling was a bit older.

Re:The Vanishing Idealism of Burning Man by toomuchtodo on Thursday August 23, 2018 @10:44PM (#17832405)
“A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.”
Re:The Vanishing Idealism of Burning Man by raldi on Thursday August 23, 2018 @07:06PM (#17831333)
"I think it's fair to say that Silicon Valley is dead." (1993)

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.folklore.comp...

Re:The Vanishing Idealism of Burning Man by guiomie on Thursday August 23, 2018 @08:44PM (#17831887)
Wow, I was just thinking about this recently having been in the bay area for 3 years. I guess things never change and I might be wrong.
Re:The Vanishing Idealism of Burning Man by rconti on Thursday August 23, 2018 @07:29PM (#17831467)
As Warren Miller, the late, great ski movie filmmaker always said about attempting that challenging run or trick or whatever: "If you don't do it this year, you'll just be another year older when you do."

The older I get, the harder it is to accept being bad and new at things, and it's a constant fight to remind myself that it's okay to suck.

Re:The Vanishing Idealism of Burning Man by erikpukinskis on Thursday August 23, 2018 @08:58PM (#17831958)
It's not just OK to suck, it's crucial. You can only get good at things you can enjoy sucking at.
Re:The Vanishing Idealism of Burning Man by bigiain on Thursday August 23, 2018 @08:14PM (#17831737)
I heard about it from a friend in '96, read that article in '97, attended first time in '98. There were already people saying "Man, this thing has sold out. You shoulda been here back when it was good, before there were, like, 7,000 people here most of who don't know 'the principles' the event is based on..."

Pretty much every year between then and when I last went (in '14) there were new rules which people claimed "ruined the evnt forever!!!" - in '99 Steve couldn't run The Drive-By Shooting Gallery again because they banned guns. Erin's camp stopped being allowed to use theirliquid fuelled flamethrowers in around '03 or '04. The Lawrence Livermore Labs guys got told they couldn't bring their big lasers out and paint animations on the mountain range in '10 or so... But at the same time, there was always some amazing new thing to see. I don't regret any of my trips out there. I still plan to get back there again one day.

Re:The Vanishing Idealism of Burning Man by baxtr on Thursday August 23, 2018 @06:36PM (#17831184)
Reminds me of the “Worst wasp season in 20 years” articles we get here in Germany every year...
Re:The Vanishing Idealism of Burning Man by pixl97 on Friday August 24, 2018 @07:41AM (#17834268)
That said, it could be true if each year is progressively worse.