Re:Venezuelans Skeptical of Maduro's Latest Measures to Salv...
by rayiner on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @03:04PM
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There's little-s socialism and big-s socialism. Social democracies like Sweden, etc., have social welfare systems bankrolled by an underlying market economy. A company in Sweden may pay high taxes, but it doesn't have to worry about being nationalized, price controls, or central planning: https://www.economist.com/special-report/2012/10/13/the-new-.... Capital will put up with high taxes. It won't put up with those other things. And without capital generating surplus to bankroll social welfare programs, your system collapses.
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Re:Venezuelans Skeptical of Maduro's Latest Measures to Salv...
by tomjakubowski on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @03:40PM
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> Capital will put up with high taxes. It won't put up with those other things. And without capital generating surplus to bankroll social welfare programs, your system collapses.
Using "capital" here to mean "private capital" is confusing at best, considering we are discussing socialism in general -- where the _entire point_ is that capital tends to be owned publicly -- and the Nordics in particular, where a massive amount of capital is public.
https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2018/08/19/nordic-gover...
Re:Venezuelans Skeptical of Maduro's Latest Measures to Salv...
by wonthegame on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @06:47PM
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But corporations don’t pay tax. They have tax burdens. Which they make the user pay for.
Re:Venezuelans Skeptical of Maduro's Latest Measures to Salv...
by prolikewh0a on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @03:13PM
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Social Democracy != Socialism. Socialism moves to take full ownership of the means of production, and Social Democracy only places regulations on business that are often demolished years down the line and workers get screwed at the benefit of the few.
Every system has failed throughout history, so there's no reason a Capitalistic system cannot fail as well, and we see the global collapse of Capitalism happening right now in front of us.
Re:Venezuelans Skeptical of Maduro's Latest Measures to Salv...
by lucio on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @03:56PM
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Have you seen the Hans Rosling talks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8t4k0Q8e8Y
There's a few on TED talks.
It's a must see.