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Re:Show HN: SVG 3D Builder – Build 3D Models with SVG by microcolonel on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @12:31PM (#17819902)
> Was java ever truly free though? Oracle's shenanigans indicate otherwise.

It probably could have been, pre-Oracle.

Re:Show HN: SVG 3D Builder – Build 3D Models with SVG by BrendanEich on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @03:05PM (#17821088)
No, Sun was not looking to open it up and even got in a spat with Microsoft over Java. MS responded by pulling Java out of Windows, which broke Outlook Web Access and required fast work to implement the first XMLHttpRequest Active X implementation of that now-standard XHR (=> Fetch) API as replacement for the Java async-io class that OWA used while Java was in Windows.
Re:Show HN: SVG 3D Builder – Build 3D Models with SVG by microcolonel on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @05:16PM (#17822267)
I meant that Oracle is less amenable to fixing the social issues they create surrounding their products, which hamper their usefulness.