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Re:Valve Rolls Out Wine-Based “Proton” for Running Windows G... by sandworm101 on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @10:24AM (#17818872)
Wow. HN is so literal. Without expanding upon ever tiny definition, take "native" to mean a linux release developed, beta-tested, and supported by the original developer. Not something developed for windows and then expected to just run on linux boxes thanks to a compatability layer.

KSP, factorio, prison architect, they all put considerable efforts into native linux support. I'd hate to see that be outsourced to valve's compatability layer(s).

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Re:Valve Rolls Out Wine-Based “Proton” for Running Windows G... by ekianjo on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @11:16AM (#17819256)
> KSP, factorio, prison architect, they all put considerable efforts into native linux support. I'd hate to see that be outsourced to valve's compatability layer(s).

Nothing prevents developers from making specific Linux clients. Valve just provides the option for when clients are not available. Nothing to lose, really.

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Re:Valve Rolls Out Wine-Based “Proton” for Running Windows G... by saverio-murgia on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @12:19PM (#17819812)
He claimed that developers could become lazy and simply stop making specific Linux clients, he never claimed that this additional option could prevent developers from making specific clients.
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Re:Valve Rolls Out Wine-Based “Proton” for Running Windows G... by ekianjo on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @08:01PM (#17823356)
Most developers already dont produce Linux ports. Even indies. So thats the current sad state of affairs. We tried. It does not work well so it was kind of obvious a WINE based solution would have to come sooner or later.
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Re:Valve Rolls Out Wine-Based “Proton” for Running Windows G... by s73v3r_ on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @12:57PM (#17820092)
Well, other than companies just not bothering with making specific Linux clients, and relying on Valve. And then when something doesn't work, the developers brush it off and say, "not my problem".
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Re:Valve Rolls Out Wine-Based “Proton” for Running Windows G... by ekianjo on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @07:59PM (#17823347)
We already know what the current state of Linux gaming is like. Almost nobody apart from 20 percent of indie gamers make Linux ports, there are no AAA games apart from rarely a few ports from Feral every year, its not going anywhere. In the meantime with DXVK i was able to play several DX11 titles as if they were native. This is the only way to go.
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Re:Valve Rolls Out Wine-Based “Proton” for Running Windows G... by grawprog on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @01:11PM (#17820188)
The thing is just because a few take the time to do that doesn't mean most developers do and it seems like most don't want to take the time to do so. But, more developers may be interested in using an emulation layer if it's supported and easy for them to use. If developers see their titles being purchased and played more on Linux systems because of this, this gives them more incentive to put more effort into developing native Linux clients and providing proper support.

The way I see it, devs aren't obligated to support any system they don't want to. I really appreciate the ones that take the time to support Linux natively, or even by using an emulation layer because I realize they don't have to. If this makes more developers realize Linux is a viable ecosystem for them to make games for. Even if it's just through an emulation layer to begin with at least they're making some efforts which is more than can be said less than a decade ago.

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