Re:Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries
by pvg on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @10:51AM
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There were zillions of language-specific IDEs in 2000 when C# was announced.
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Re:Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries
by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @12:42PM
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Yes, but none of those IDEs were developed concurrently with the language by tightly integrated teams (well, except smalltalk).
Re:Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries
by pvg on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @03:02PM
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If that was the case for C#/.NET, they really didn't have much to show for it at time of release. IntelliJ IDEA that came out a year later was a fancier, more 'integrated' IDE.
But beside smalltalk, there were lots of others. All the commercial Lisps, Dylan etc. Somewhat more mainstream-ish - the NeXT Objective C environment is a good and much earlier example.
There were lots of interesting things about .NET when it came out, the IDE-ness of it doesn't strike me as one of them at all.
Re:Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries
by repolfx on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @01:27PM
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Yes they were. Delphi and Visual Basic are the most obvious examples of IDE-centric languages. You couldn't even buy the compiler separately from the IDE.
Re:Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries
by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @02:52PM
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VB comes from the same lineage. Heck, even delphi does, obviously.