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Re:Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries by floatboth on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @08:29AM (#17808941)
Well, it's a language created by an IDE company…
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Re:Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries by vorg on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @08:43AM (#17809027)
The dividing line between what's a language and what's the IDE is fairly arbitrary. E.g. a language could conceivably come with a tool chain that includes CLI-driven refactoring, and an "IDE" would only need to be a graphical interface calling it.
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Re:Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries by opencl on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @09:28AM (#17809322)
This is basically the idea behind the Language Server Protocol. The language toolchain provides a server and the IDE is a client.

https://microsoft.github.io/language-server-protocol/

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Re:Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries by pvg on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @10:54AM (#17810117)
The dividing line between what's a language and what's the IDE is fairly arbitrary

How do you figure? The language defines the runtime semantics in a way no IDE or refactoring tool does. It's a very bright line, unless you're conflating the distribution package of the language with the language itself.

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Re:Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries by eloff on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @09:05AM (#17809173)
Go is a language like that, with e.g. the gorename tool for refactoring.
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Re:Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries by sigjuice on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @02:55PM (#17812626)
A language and an IDE are completely separate things.
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Re:Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries by rooam-dev on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @08:34AM (#17808967)
Yeah. It used to be "choose IDE that supports your language", now it will be "choose a language that is supported by your IDE".
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Re:Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries by giancarlostoro on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @08:35AM (#17808980)
I mean it's sorta in the name "Integrated"
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