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Re:SEC Charges Rothenberg Ventures in Fraudulent Scheme by backuptape8 on Monday August 20, 2018 @11:03PM (#17806572)
From the page's title:

> The Actual Mike is not quite the virtual Gatsby

Jay Gatsby was a criminal. Of course he says he's "not quite the virtual Gatsby." But he's still essentially likening himself to a fictional criminal.

Re:SEC Charges Rothenberg Ventures in Fraudulent Scheme by CalChris on Monday August 20, 2018 @11:21PM (#17806668)
Jay Gatsby was a criminal. That's gray. It's hinted and perhaps likely that he was a bootlegger. As that was legal before prohibition and after, it's hard for me to morally judge him a criminal what with his character never having been charged and convicted of any crime.
Re:SEC Charges Rothenberg Ventures in Fraudulent Scheme by mikeryan on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @01:38AM (#17807275)
Bootlegging, by definition, is illegal.
Re:SEC Charges Rothenberg Ventures in Fraudulent Scheme by paulddraper on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @12:49AM (#17807086)
But legally...he was a criminal (probably).

Just like people who drove 80mph were criminals during the Emergency Highway Energy Conversation Act, but they weren't before or after that.

Re:SEC Charges Rothenberg Ventures in Fraudulent Scheme by CalChris on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @12:56AM (#17807121)
No, legally people who are convicted of crimes are criminals.
Re:SEC Charges Rothenberg Ventures in Fraudulent Scheme by paulddraper on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @11:52AM (#17810694)
Hm, then there should be a name for someone who commits a criminal act.
Re:SEC Charges Rothenberg Ventures in Fraudulent Scheme by oh_sigh on Monday August 20, 2018 @11:36PM (#17806754)
Agreed. I also never understood why Al Capone has such a bad stigma when he was really just a run of the mill tax evader.
Re:SEC Charges Rothenberg Ventures in Fraudulent Scheme by jwc1 on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @12:18AM (#17806958)
I think there's a great deal of evidence to suggest Capone was more than a run of the mill tax evader even though all they nailed him for was tax evasion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Capone#Saint_Valentine's_Da...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Outfit#Al_Capone's_emp...

Re:SEC Charges Rothenberg Ventures in Fraudulent Scheme by oh_sigh on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @01:37AM (#17807267)
I was referring to this part of the post:

> his character never having been charged and convicted of any crime.

Or is the idea that if you are charged for shoplifting it is okay to spread the idea that you are a murderer?

Re:SEC Charges Rothenberg Ventures in Fraudulent Scheme by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @02:02AM (#17807352)
> he's still essentially likening himself to a fictional criminal

And Steve Jobs likened himself to a pirate (along with half my grade school).