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Re:SEC Charges Rothenberg Ventures in Fraudulent Scheme by paulddraper on Monday August 20, 2018 @07:18PM (#17805019)
And other times criminal charges comes first.

For example, SEC investigated Bernie Madoff multiple times, but the it was the FBI that decided to act, based on a criminal complaint.

Sentence: 150 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Madoff

Re:SEC Charges Rothenberg Ventures in Fraudulent Scheme by jhabdas on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @07:07AM (#17808575)
In this case should one be allowed to request a death penalty? Wouldn't 150 years in jail be considered cruel and unusual punishment?
Re:SEC Charges Rothenberg Ventures in Fraudulent Scheme by lmm on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @07:15AM (#17808600)
> should one be allowed to request a death penalty?

If prison conditions are bad enough for someone to even consider that, that's a damning indictment of the prison system.

> Wouldn't 150 years in jail be considered cruel and unusual punishment?

Certainly not unusual, and jail doesn't seem inherently cruel, if we believe some people are enough of a danger to society that they need to be kept out of it. (Of course some particular jails might be cruel).

(I'm using the British English meaning of "jail"; I'm aware that in US English the term has a technical meaning)

Re:SEC Charges Rothenberg Ventures in Fraudulent Scheme by leetcrew on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @08:21AM (#17808889)
> If prison conditions are bad enough for someone to even consider that, that's a damning indictment of the prison system.

really? a cage is still a cage, no matter how nice. i'm not thirty yet; to live out more than half of my life in confinement, with no hope of release, sounds like a fate worse than death to me. if i were near the end of my life already and had a family, it might be a different calculation.